Jenna Woginrich 37 mins · Okay folks, here it is: I need a truck. My current truck, the Dakota, has been demoted to the role of farm truck, both by myself and the fine state of New York. That means the truck is still insured, but it isn’t allowed to leave a 25-mile radius of the farm and should only be used for farm work (delivering animals, getting hay, etc). It’s just a beater that I kept beating and it is on her last legs…. it is time to get something dependable, cheap, and trusty. I found this girl on Craigslist. A 1989 Ford f150! She’s got 4WD, barely any rust, and a NEW transmission! She’s for sale for 2 grand. A truck in this good of shape for that price is a STEAL and exactly what I need for both farm and writing gigs (speaking events, signings, etc). The guys selling it is a musician in Connecticut and we spoke on the phone and worked out the details. This baby is coming to Cold Antler if I can wrangle up the funds this weekend! I planning on buying this used truck outright. It’s safer, easy and cheap to fix, and honestly… it’s my dream truck. I also am done buying new vehicles, it just isn’t my reality and a payment plan at a dealership isn’t in my budget. But I don’t have the money for her. That’s where you guys come in. I am asking for help with this loan, which to be funded requires that fifteen people loan me $25 a piece for it to qualify. Note - this is a LOAN, not a kickstarter or crowd funding. You get your money paid back to you, automatically deposited back into your account as I make the small monthly payments to Kiva. So I’m asking for you to consider making a small loan to help this farm get road worthy again? CLICK HERE TO LOAN! https://zip.kiva.org/loans/15887/i/sl3y
She lets her 2000-whatever Dakota go to pot because she can't afford repairs so the solution is to buy a 26 year old truck for two grand? And now she's going to maintain, register, and insure two trucks? Why not invest 2k into the Dakota? Sounds like she's going to buy it sight unseen -- never mind test drive it. This "new" ancient truck might look clean but the frame could be rotten as well as the brake and fuel lines.....Holy shit is she stupid.
She intends to use this truck to go to speaking events and signings--- hope her speaking fee covers the gas money on this guzzler!
Better yet, why not buy a tiny, fuel efficient car. If NY says she can keep the old truck for farm use, that would serve her better. She can still drive the older truck into town to get feed. A little car that sips gas is a much better choice for her. Better yet, a tiny hatchback. You can move feed in those. I've done that myself, back when I could only afford one tiny vehicle and would never dream of begging to get a second one. Sometimes you have to make due with what you have. The only thing that makes sense is that Jenna must have a truck because of her image. She can't possibly be seen driving a car. Only poodles drive cars.
On the kiva loan site it says she is using the new truck for farm work-- like get feed and hay and the Dakota will be a farm truck........she has six acres what the hell is she gonna do, use it like a motorized wheelbarrow?
If it's not going to leave her property again why wouldn't she sell it? She can sell it outright to someone who could fix it up or get a few hundred from the junk yard.
New York state might prevent you from selling a vehicle that didn't pass inspection. Does anyone know about that? Who would want to buy a truck that didn't pass! Junk yard is the best bet.
She only needed partial support to be funded by Kiva, from what I understand.
Here's the piece of crap she will now be using for her "good" truck. This is the epitome of a beater. Also-- had a plow on it! Hahahaha! Hello, rusty frame and lines.
I'm laughing my butt off! I'm a transmission engineer in the Detroit area and I can tell you a new transmission for that type of truck costs over $2000. A certified rebuilt trans is over $1000, and a used one will cost $800 and up. For a $2250 purchase price, that new trans is only new to that vehicle; probably bought from a wrecking yard. Hope she got the Carfax! I hope she does buy the truck - I'll get a lot of entertainment out this.
Doesn't she still make payments on that Dakota? I'm stupified by this latest move. Once again, her "toys" come before her animal care responsibilities. No shelter for Merlin or the pigs, no feeders for anyone, raggedy-ass fencing, and that barn is going to cave in at any moment.
Speaking of lying and the root canal in the same sentence. I also simply cannot believe there are such stupid people in the world that would actually donate to someone who refuses to work.
Jenna, you really take the cake! You state that you need 15 people to loan you $25 each, yet your loan amount you ask for is $2250, which means you REALLY want 90 people to each loan you $25. I know math is not your strong point, but even an idiot can figure out that you are trying to fool people. What a scammer!
I am laughing my ass off at your paragraph: I planning on buying this used truck outright. It’s safer, easy and cheap to fix, and honestly… it’s my dream truck. I also am done buying new vehicles, it just isn’t my reality and a payment plan at a dealership isn’t in my budget. " THIS IS A LIE! YOU ARE NOT PURCHASING ANYTHING OUTRIGHT! YOU ARE BORROWING MONEY FROM POODLES! You still MUST pay this money back just as if it's a bank loan! I hope these poodles have some legal redress when you default. I can see it now: 90 people showing up at your door to repossess that truck.
When was the last time you bought a new vehicle? You had an old junky Subaru and now the Dodge, which wasn't new either. You really need to keep better track of your lies.
Anyone wanna put money on how long it takes before she defaults?
Hahaha! Calm down-- she needed 15 people at $25 to qualify-- she doesn't need to get raise the full amount....the 15 at $25 gets her the money.
Still! She's insane.
I don't know if you were following as far back as when she got rid of the Subaru but she basically just gave up on it one day much the way she is the Dakota. It wouldn't start so she had it towed away for what sounded like the price of towing! Later, the guy that got it told her he made a lot of money on it. No, kidding-- it was a fairly newish Subaru with not a lot wrong with it.
She has NO SENSE when it comes to money or vehicles.
She kind of just wears stuff out and then throws it away. You have to maintain things if you want them to last-- not her strong suit!
Actually, she does need to raise the FULL amount to get ANY funds! She just needed to get 15 of her own poodles to loan her $25 each before Kiva allows her request to be posted for the public to see. She NEEDS a total of 90 suckas to loan her $25 each. Last I checked, she was 70% funded. As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted!
Per Kiva's FAQ's: When a loan is posted into the private loan period, the borrower has 15 days to invite the required number of lenders to fund their loan. For loans of $2,500 and under, borrowers must invite five to fifteen lenders, for loans of $2,525 and above, borrowers must invite ten to thirty lenders. Once a borrower reaches the required number of lenders, their loan will be posted to the public Kiva Zip website and have 45 additional days to raise the remaining amount.
If a Kiva Zip loan has not been fully funded after 45 days of public fundraising, it will expire. The loan is removed from the website, any lenders that funded it are refunded their money, and the borrower will receive none of the money.
Could she not have spent that money to repair the Dakota, which she already owns and is a newer vintage? There is no earthly reason for her to keep two vehicles on the road. That's a lot of $$$ wasted.
(d) Farm plate vehicle. The term farm plate vehicle shall mean a motor vehicle, trailer or semitrailer registered pursuant to Vehicle and Traffic Law section 401(13) and when operated between points within New York State on public highways connecting portions of a farm or farms, municipal sanitary landfills and licensed motor vehicle repair shops, and traveling by the most direct route, but in no event further than 25 miles one-way from a point on the farm as designated by the vehicle owner and set forth in an attachment to the vehicle registration: (1) between fields, buildings, and facilities managed or operated as part of a single farm enterprise in connection with the production, harvesting, processing or marketing on that farm of crops, livestock, or livestock products produced on that farm; or (2) for the purpose of transporting materials from a farm to the nearest available municipal sanitary landfill; or (3) for the purposes of transporting the motor vehicle, trailer or semi-trailer to a motor vehicle repair shop licensed pursuant to the Vehicle and Traffic Law for the repair or adjustment of equipment provided that, in addition to the route restrictions set forth in the Vehicle and Traffic Law, no such transport shall be authorized: (i) if such vehicle has an out-of-service defect relating to load securement, brake systems, steering components and/or coupling devices, or after it has been placed out-of-service; (ii) on any limited access highway; and (iii) during the period of one hour before sunset to one hour after sunrise.
What part of this law allows Jenna to legally register either vehicle as a farm vehicle?
I was wondering what the advantage is of having farm plates. And NO, the state of New York does not make you get farm plates. You apply for them, because they're cheaper! Farm plates do not require insurance. Wonder how long it will be before she plows into someone with no insurance.
New York State regs:
Farm 16490-FR Farm plates are for moving equipment between farms, migrant worker buses, or from farm to dump, or any other farming activity. Vehicles with Farm plates do not require insurance. They are registered for one year and all expire in December. Plates are validated with a plate sticker. A legitimate farm or livestock operation must be owned in order to qualify for these plates, and specific information regarding the use of the vehicle must be provided to the DMV. FA suffix was used on the Empire State base, and the FR suffix is on the current Empire Gold base.
That's a huge risk for her to take. If she causes an accident in her can't-get-a-sticker Dakota won't she get sued personally for damages? She could lose everything.
I thought this line was interesting:
"A legitimate farm or livestock operation must be owned in order to qualify for these plates, and specific information regarding the use of the vehicle must be provided to the DMV."
How does someone with a handful of critters in their backyard qualify as a legitimate farm? I'm guessing it doesn't. I'm also guessing she could get in a lot of trouble for this.
I once considered buying an older van. I took it to my mechanic and paid $80 for a bumper-to-bumper analysis of everything that was wrong with it. That van would have cost me hundreds, if not over a thousand in repairs had I bought it without getting it checked out. Needless to say, I did not buy the van. Best $80 I ever spent (since I'm not a mechanic!)
You can disagree with her stupid choices all you want, but I can tell you an older Ford is a GOOD truck. Cheap to purchase, cheap to repair and keep on the road. Those trucks (MOST of them) are very dependable and reliable.
Of course, the truck could be rusted out from all the road salt, like you said. BUT, if it has been well cared for, it could be a good truck for many, many more years. Well, that is, if it is taken care of.
I have no issue with older trucks if, as you say, they were taken care of. I would prefer one myself but finding a good one is very difficult. You can be sure she won't be taking care of it. Her attitude towards vehicles seems to be use 'em up and wear 'em out.
Godoy A Jose: If you can find someome to buy my accord ill give you the 2k to buy the truck to be paid back as you can with no strings attached on time frame. Jenna Woginrich and im definitely not understanding this kiva thing. Can i just give you $25 which you can pay back in friendship and smiles?
Thank God this guy doesn't have anyone to buy his Accord...
Anne Art: You could sell the beater to help cover the newer one.
From the Kiva site: 1. Discover Discover inspirational borrowers making a positive impact in their communities. 2. Lend Support an entrepreneur's dreams. Make a loan to empower their business and livelihood. 3. Connect Receive repayments on your loan and receive updates on the impact you helped create. 4. Reinvest Use your repayments to support another borrower and increase your impact.
inspirational borrowers making a positive impact in their communities--- JW???
LENDER BEWARE: There appears to be NO redress for default.
U.S. borrowers on Kiva Zip must invite lenders from their own network (and/or the network of their Trustee) to fund their loan, before they are able to take advantage of Kiva Zip’s crowd of lenders. We view this as an important measure of the borrower’s trust network and hope these lenders keep the borrower accountable for repaying their loan. For loans of $2,500 and under we require borrowers to invite between 5 and 15 lenders from within their network. For loans of $2,525 and above we require borrowers to invite between 10 and 30 lenders from within their network.
How long do I have to fundraise on Kiva Zip?
When a loan is posted into the private loan period, the borrower has 15 days to invite the required number of lenders to fund their loan. For loans of $2,500 and under, borrowers must invite five to fifteen lenders, for loans of $2,525 and above, borrowers must invite ten to thirty lenders. Once a borrower reaches the required number of lenders, their loan will be posted to the public Kiva Zip website and have 45 additional days to raise the remaining amount.
1.2 Loan Collection and Repayment.
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There's gotta be a commercial aspect to being a farm as far as the plates/DMV is concerned or every person with a garden could have a non-insured farm truck on the road.
New York State Legal Definitions Relating to Agriculture § 301. Definitions. When used in this article: 1. "Agricultural assessment value" means the value per acre assigned to land for assessment purposes determined pursuant to the capitalized value of production procedure prescribed by section three hundred four-a of this article. 2. "Crops, livestock and livestock products" shall include but not be limited to the following: a. Field crops, including corn, wheat, oats, rye, barley, hay, potatoes and dry beans. b. Fruits, including apples, peaches, grapes, cherries and berries. c. Vegetables, including tomatoes, snap beans, cabbage, carrots, beets and onions. d. Horticultural specialties, including nursery stock, ornamental shrubs, ornamental trees and flowers. e. Livestock and livestock products, including cattle, sheep, hogs, goats, horses, poultry, ratites, such as ostriches, emus, rheas and kiwis, farmed deer, farmed buffalo, fur bearing animals, wool bearing animals, such as alpacas and llamas, milk, eggs and furs. f. Maple sap. g. Christmas trees
3. "Farm woodland" means land used for the production for sale of woodland products, including but not limited to logs, lumber, posts and firewood. Farm woodland shall not include land used to produce Christmas trees or land used for the processing or retail merchandising of woodland products. 4. "Land used in agricultural production" means not less than seven acres of land used as a single operation in the preceding two years for the production for sale of crops, livestock or livestock products of an average gross sales value of ten thousand dollars or more; or, not less than seven acres of land used in the preceding two years to support a commercial horse boarding operation with annual gross receipts of ten thousand dollars or more. Land used in agricultural production shall not include land or portions thereof used for processing or retail merchandising of such crops, livestock or livestock products. Land used in agricultural production shall also include: a. Rented land which otherwise satisfies the requirements for eligibility for an agricultural assessment. a-1. Land used by a not-for-profit institution for the purposes of agricultural research that is intended to improve the quality or quantity of crops, livestock or livestock products. Such land shall qualify for an agricultural assessment upon application made pursuant to paragraph (a) of subdivision one of section three hundred five of this article, except that no minimum gross sales value shall be required. b. Land of not less than seven acres used as a single operation for the production for sale of crops, livestock or livestock products, exclusive of woodland products, which does not independently satisfy the gross sales value requirement, where such land was used in such production for the preceding two years and currently is being so used under a written rental arrangement of five or more years in conjunction with land which is eligible for an agricultural assessment.
It's hurts... Make it stop. Pleeeease..... Didn't her momma teach her any sense? She is such a scam artist. She knows all the ins and outs of internet begging and money grubbing. Gads she should write a book about it all. How I get saps to fund my fantasy life. My gawd. Just can not freaking believe this. And can not b elieve those that are funding this! Jenna? Two years of payments? For a rust bucket? She's always behind in her house payment and now no root canal, new puppy, stupid shit from amazon, pony cart etc etc etc etc didn't she just sell her meat birds to stupid people for some insane price? Oh wait that money came in weeks and weeks ago, it's all gone. Oh my gawd, it just makes my head spin to watch her puppet show unfold like some rotten onion as she preys on these stupid stupid people! And this loan? They don't even make a dime? No interest? Nothing? Ugh...
Take heart, she's the most miserable person I've ever seen. What happiness or joy can she ever get from life if people are seen merely as resources --- she's incapable of the vulnerability necessary for meaningful relationships. Jenna is always #1 and what a sad, empty way that is to live.
""Land used in agricultural production" means not less than seven acres of land used as a single operation in the preceding two years for the production for sale of crops, livestock or livestock products of an average gross sales value of ten thousand dollars or more; or, not less than seven acres of land used"
soooo.......not a farm then?
She has 6.5 acres--- couldn't possibly be grossing 10k on it.......
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She's just lying about the state MAKING her downgrade it to a farm vehicle.... Just making the sob story better so her poodle stupid fans will fund her fantasy life.
it is hilarious , though yes, not for my sister!! And they even had the truck checked out first. Site unseen is just DUMB espec for a VERY OLD American truck. (I don't hate America, but we do not build the most lasting trucks....sorry)
how do all these loaners not know about all the rest of us who lost our money to her...never to be seen again...and ours wasn't even a loan. It was for a product never delivered. YOU ALL WILL NEVER BE PAID BACK. EVER. The poor mechanic who worked on her Dakota, on a payment plan, is still waiting for the rest of his money from her. This must make him fume...
Ha, well call me Jenna Trump you minions of poddledom! I got the farm plates and now have field cred as I ride my truck into town looking like Ol'Macdonald, hipster fantasy badda bing And guess what, no insurance needed, well pour me a haymaker and let Gibson drive while I figure out the next money rush for CAF Damn, money is kale baby
THAT kind of truck has to be tinkered with ALL.THE.TIME to keep it going. Its not a one and done thing. JW is going to be MOST unhappy when she learns this....She will dump it within one year.
For sure, I envision much pumping of the gas peddle before grumbling to life whilst emitting copious amounts of blue smoke from the tail pipe.....on it's good days.
What about the environmental aspect? Doubling your carbon footprint. Two vehicles for one person? A John Deere Gator would suit her "farming" needs better. Besides, wasn't she the one who said she would never use a tractor - that she would use her logging pony for all her hauling needs.
Let the poodles fund her! This latest episode will provide much entertainment value. No animals involved, no empty promises of wheat, wool, cherished knit hats, e-books. Just a girl and her truck.
With all the drinking Jenna does, it would not surprise me to learn she crashed and totaled the Dakota while inebriated. Jenna admits to buying a silly dog shirt while being drunk. What else has Jenna done while drunk that she has not disclosed? Alcoholism is a serious matter.
Jenna, consider Rethinking Drinking, a website by National Institutes of Health.
http://rethinkingdrinking.niaaa.nih.gov/
Jenna, also see Excess alcohol affecting farm families, By Dr. Mike Rosmann IFT columnist, May 03, 2013
"How do farm and ranch people manage — or not manage — alcohol consumption?
In 1991, Lorrin Walker, Don Warren and Jill Greenwalt published an article entitled "The Good Life on the Ranch, or Myths and Misconceptions, or the Drunk Cowboy Syndrome," which may be as true today as when it was written.
The "Drunk Cowboy Syndrome" applies to farmers as well as ranchers.
Many hard-working ranchers use alcohol to numb physical pain, the authors suggested.
As the workday goes along and they become sore from strenuous physical activities, these ranchers consume alcohol to reduce their sensations of pain, often starting to drink around midday.
Alcohol enables cowboys to keep working. It has created a myth — the authors say — that drinking to deal with pain is acceptable.
As the people who take care of the land and livestock age, they develop more physical pains, such as arthritis and other musculoskeletal issues, and they drink alcohol in ever greater amounts until they "just can’t" any longer.
They model the use of alcohol as acceptable to their children and grandchildren who work with them.
SOMETIMES, RANCHERS use alcohol to avoid psychological pain as well, spouses say. If they drink enough beer or hard liquor, they don’t have to think about things that bother them, even if only temporarily.
Some farmers and ranchers visit the bar on a daily basis or keep a cooler with alcoholic beverages stashed in their pickup trucks. Drinking alcohol has become part of the culture.
Do people involved in agriculture consume more alcohol than persons not engaged in agricultural occupations?
Drs. Jim Merchant and Craig Zwerling and other associates at the University of Iowa have been gathering health risk data from residents of a highly agricultural Iowa county for many years in what has become known as the Keokuk County Rural Health Study (www.kcrhs.org).
While not representative of all the agricultural population, their 2001 report of 1,583 study participants indicated binge drinking was equally frequent among farmers, rural non-farmers and townspeople over 25 years of age. Men (24 percent) were more likely to binge drink than women (9 percent).
Male farmers over 65 years of age were less than half as likely as younger male farmers to report a history of alcohol abuse. Binge drinking decreased with age for both men and women.
HOW MUCH alcohol is consumed by rural youths and what effects does it have? The University of Iowa research team also surveyed binge drinking by youths.
Binge drinking was defined as consumption of five or more drinks of beer, wine or liquor on the same occasion.
Among 621 youths in the Keokuk County study aged 12-17, 12.8 percent reported an episode of binge drinking during the previous 30 days.
Boys who reported binge drinking were 2.2 times more likely to experience an injury of some kind than boys who did not report binge drinking. Girls who reported binge drinking were 8.1 times more likely to incur an injury than girls who did not report binge drinking. Only 5 percent of the reported injuries occurred on farms.
The Keokuk County study used health interview survey data gathered from 1994-98. More-recent adolescent alcohol use information gathered in 2009 was reported in 2012 by the Maine Rural Health Research Center.
Youths age 12-13 who lived in rural areas were more likely (10.4 percent) than urban youths (9.1 percent) to report binge drinking. As they aged, youthful rural binge drinkers were also more likely to report driving a vehicle while under the influence of alcohol than urban counterparts.
Rural youths, their families and peers, were less likely to disapprove of youth drinking than urban residents. The survey did not separate youths who lived on farms and ranches from other rural residents.
It is well known inebriation increases the risk of injuries and death while engaged in farming activities, according to a 2010 article in the "American Journal of Industrial Medicine."
Inebriation reduces reaction time, accuracy of motor movements, impulse control and rational thinking, and increases risk-taking. It diminishes the perception of pain and emotional turmoil but simultaneously increases many other negative health consequences.
We have to ask ourselves: "Are drunk cowboys and farmers safe and competent?" Most available evidence says "No."
Need help? Call 800-521-7128 or 866-416-2862.
Dr. Mike Rosmann lives in Harlan. Contact him at: www.agbehavioralhealth.com."
I've thought she had an alcohol problem for a couple years. I don't know if it caused her to quit working or it got worse after she quit working, but I think it goes hand in hand. I don't know if her enablers understand what they are contributing to.
I can certainly see the relavence of your comments, but in reality Jenna doesn't work that hard. If she is drinking in excess it's due to boredom and loneliness not the pain of hard work. It's still an issue though especially when she seems so publicly proud of her drinking and the results...impulse buying that completely ugly shirt.
Jenna drinks because she thinks it makes her look cool. It cracks me up that she has to brag about drinking like she just turned 21. We're adults, we can drink. It's not a big deal, and not something to brag about unless you just turned 21. Grow up, Jenna.
Just saw the pickup she's getting on Craig's list. It will be interesting this winter when she tries to get it into 4WD - does she know what locking hubs are and what they do? In 1989, you generally had to lock the hubs manually; they didn't lock automatically as they do now. I also wonder if she knows not to drive it in 4WD on bare roads so as not to burn up the transmission and transfer case.
Ugh. My family has several vehicles with farm plates (we run a business, a "real" one that employs a few dozen people). They're used to haul greengoods across our land, and an occasional local delivery of product. PERIOD.
There are significant insurance & plate fee benefits, which is wonderful when your business requires multiple vehicles - a very expensive necessity. There are also strict rules that must be complied with.
If you screw it up and get caught, you can lose ALL of your farm plate benefits. Every time some moron gets "farm plates" for giggles and to look "cowboy cool", they jeopardize the government revoking this privilege/loophole in the DMV requirements for the rest of us.
Not to mention.... keeping a spare vehicle around, when you're strapped for cash, is about the most stupid business decision possible. The moment something is not functional, making more money than it costs, it gets sold. Auction, Craigslist, scrap, whatever. Sold. We're not automobile collectors, we need our equipment to make money.
This makes my head explode. And that tshirt she drunkenly bought off of Amazon prime, while asking people to donate that amount for a second vehicle? WTF.
One bright side- I believe the Kiva page stays up, so her repayments, or lack of them, will be documented tot he public. Pretty sad that a 32 year old has such lousy credit -or no savings-that she has to get a 'loan' from followers.
So, she got the truck, bully for her. But how is she going to get it? Which one of the enabling poodles will drive her to another state to pick it up and how will she manage because as she's mentioned a million times she can't be far from the farm because of the animals or to be more precise the animal escapes?
Anyone see the latest blog in response to someone politely asking why she's not getting a part time job to help with expenses? It's over the top obnoxious. Closing line: "How's your day going, homie? Pretty good? I hope so. Cause if this commenting on stranger's blogs thing isn't working out you may need to make a change. "
She let Ginger's comment through on purpose. I know, because she will not publish any comment I've made on her blog. Someone must be giving her a hard time about this latest beg-fest, and she's looking to vent on an innocent bystander. Hope Ginger finds her way here.
And the poodles who continually bail her out think they know who she is because of her blog? Not by a long shot as a few local commenters to this site gave attested.
You should read her entire response. She just dumped on this poor Ginger. I'm sure Ginger is by far not the only one that wrote her about this, but she got the lucky number for JW to rake her over the coals for a reasonable suggestion.
JW: Click this link to read my response to this delightful person. http://coldantlerfarm.blogspot.com/2015/08/dear-ginger.html
She's actually PROUD of her response to that person?
You should see the FB responses to that. Ginger's parents have been insulted; he/she's been called "angry"; and one mature poster even called him inhuman and threatened to shoot him/her. "....one fella is handing back his 'member of the human race' card and swiftly returning to the stone from whence he crawled! Haha! Don't raise your head above the parapet, Ginger!! Boom!"
Oh, well. The readership over there is sinking to new lows. One posted: " I'm contemplating leaving my full-time office job to work multiple part-time jobs that are more fulfilling and give me more time to focus on important things while still supporting a home, 5 kids, and traveling to visit my husband in prison weekly or bi-weekly. Part of the reason I feel confident to try and do this is because of stories like yours. Thank you for keeping it real."
Hey, if anyone's parents are going to be insulted it oughta be Ms.Antler's. Raising such a nasty, narcissistic, animal abusing internet thief demands explanation.
Ginger's response was short, calm, and rational. Jenna's was anything but. And for Jenna to be doing this after she just spent over a thousand dollars on a puppy she didn't need is MIND-BOGGLING.
She says on her shield mare blog that she's a libertarian. How does she reconcile that with all this begging? She'd better not take Medicare or Social Security, although Aym Rand took the former!
I don't know what's worse--the over the top, mean-spirited reply to a fairly innocuous comment, or the folks on Facebook totally tearing into the commenter like a pack of wolves. It's juvenile and ugly. Jenna should be ashamed.
Unfortunately she's very very proud of the fact that she has sooooo many admirers, regardless of the fact that they too are probably office dwelling drones with dreams of their own. Only difference is they are funding JW's dream and not their own.
It also begs the question if office dwellers don't belong on farming blogs then why are most of JW's followers on her blog. A lot of them have said they do not have a farm, but would like one some day. And, even JW did not always live on a farm in the country.
Where you work doesn't matter. I have been a corporate executive, farmer, livestock producer/showman/seller for more than 30 years. One doesn't have anything to do with the other...other than the fact that JW and her followers have no clue what is going on in the farming community, traditional, sustainable or diversified.
Fantasy is fine but eventually you have to live in reality. Wait till she's in her 40's or 50's and things are not going so well. That bridge she'd rather live under won't look so appealing.
I used to be insulted by her begging, and lying.. and hubris, and disdain for good people.. Now I pity her.. This will all come home to roost soon enough. Look at all the people here commenting.. NEGATIVELY. Imagine how many more don't comment, but are in agreement. Good luck on your, ahem, new truck Jenna. Maybe it will last you a winter.. Maybe. I pray for you, I do.. I think it's gotten to that point now.
" I was waiting for one of "those" people. Let me comment....
Ginger dear, unless you are really, really disabled, there is absolutely no reason your income is fixed. That's on you. If you require government assistance, I don't care....but realize someone (we and including Jenna) fund you. I know personally this household could do TONS more if I didn't have to pay all those taxes.
You need to change your thinking "Do With" instead of "Do Without".
*****
I thought the truck was quite modest.....hopefully the beast serve you well.
A name, the truck needs a name. And maybe a set of antlers on the hood."
This is my favorite reply because the person is too stupid to realize that the person Jenna is angry with basically just said the same thing to Jenna. She is backing up the view of that person, rather than Jenna.
Jenna's letting the poodles help her pick out her new eye wear on FB. Someone actually told her the frames were bringing out her inner Aniston-- Jenna enjoyed that! She is whipping up some strong kool-aid and the fans are thirsty.
And "Ginger's" comment was fairly innocuous -- hardly worth Jenna's time responding, too-- I mean, she told us how she's got the Good Life going on 24/7 up in the North Country (did she just move? Jackson's not in it) you'd think she'd have better things to do. I have to laugh -- she'd rather live under a bridge than return to office work-- but the majority of her many occupations she's boasting about are butt-in-chair jobs.
I don't think she's was talking to "Ginger" at all-- I think she's reading this blog.
These people will never see a penny back. Ever. And I think they and Jenna know it. It doesn't hurt too badly to lose $25.00. "Aw shucks, Jenna, just keep it. I can go without pizza." It's just a new way for Jenna to scam money.
Anon 10:45, you hit the nail on the head! This is the main reason she did Kiva...so she could default on payments (or skip them altogether) and keep her truck. That's the reason she didn't (or couldn't) get a loan from a bank...you know, accountability and all that.
"I do without many things I can't afford, Ginger."
$500-1000 puppy plus shipping from Idaho new kitten Two new pairs of glasses new running shoes New albums WoW Alcohol, sweet, sweet alcohol Ugly dog shirt Amazon Prime Two trucks TKD class
This is just shit I can recall lately. Yeah, she's living such a life of deprivation and need!
"Suzy I.August 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM I have an observation about those who have firsthand knowledge of poverty, either because they used to be poor or are currently experiencing it. I am in the former category, thank goodness, and I am not going to tell you "how bad I had it." Trust me, it was bad. But I think that many people who describe their financial difficulties in online comments wear it as a badge of honor, and use their status to hector those who they feel aren't "being poor" appropriately. Anyway, my observation is that people who are having, or who have experienced poverty, fall into two camps: Those who have empathy towards others who are facing lean times, and those who are sanctimonious harpies. Jenna, I've walked a mile in your shoes, and if there was a Kiva when I hit my rough patch, I'd have been all over that like a chicken on a junebug. Ginger, lighten up."
Jennas NOT poor! She's the most active consumer I don't know.
Unreal.
Do people not realize what poor is?
Poor is wondering where you will get fresh water from or if you're lucky diluting juice to make it stretch 10x as far. Not pouring booze out. That's liquid gold to the poor.
Poor is limiting traveling because of the expense of gas...if you're fortunate enough to have a car...not purchasing a second vehicle after FLYING a puppy cross country.
I see she's let through a couple negative comments-- she knows if the Fifi Brigade gets a whiff of it they'll do all the dirty work of telling these people off for her.
Cracks me up she keeps harping on the "you must be a miserable person if you're mean to me." Um, nope! I'm a perfectly happy person. Why does she think it's ok to open her life to the public when she's begging for money, but the moment someone doesn't cheer her on she says it's only HER business? Get real.
And the attitude of her whole clan...you can "let the community" help you. Like it's a privilege for people to give her charity? And it IS charity.
Jenna, Kiva isn't a loan for you. Get real. It's a donation. Just like the Gofundme money you stole from those people. Because we ALL know there will NEVER be a Birchthorn book.
I'll never understand why Jenna and the Enablers equate remarks like Ginger's with "cruelty", hatred, meanness, etc.....if someone with an ounce of sense really really loved her, they would tell her what Ginger told her. The people on that blog who are filled with hate and feelings of adolescent entitlement are Jenna and the Enablers. Jenna hates the word WORK and has a major tantrum every time someone suggests she should do it.
It's also a very cruel and somewhat nefarious tactic to take any criticism or questions about yourself or your actions and turn it around so that the question-asker looks crazy or afflicted with some psychological misery. It's gaslighting, pure and simple. "No, disregarding your questions about my spending issues, or cruelty to animals, or lying about my circumstances....YOU are the problem, dear reader! YOU are unhappy and miserable and are amusing yourself by accusing me and asking me these ridiculous questions!" It should be noted this is the classic response of a malignant narcissist to a perceived threat.
Speak of the Devil. Has anyone seen his lovely blog post in which he demonstrates how not to train a puppy? It includes outdated dominance theory and kicking his puppy in the stomach because it jumps up on a kid.
1. They think they know best about everything. They know what’s best for you; just ask them…
2. Their excitement is contagious and sweeps you along. Whether it’s for a new product, career, love interest or activity, it’s the best and greatest, even if it’s the opposite of what they thought 10 minutes ago. You should jump on board if you know what’s good for you.
3. They think they don’t have anything to learn. They’re new employees or interns who know everything and don’t need to learn from people who are already doing their jobs well … They insist on doing it their way, even though they fail repeatedly. They won’t listen; especially when they’re failing.
4. They’re more important than you are. Actually, they’re more important than the rest of the world … Their feelings get hurt easily and are powerful justifications for anger, retaliation and revenge. Their jealousies, issues and concerns (not yours) become the focus of all interactions. Their desires for promotions, toys they want, relationships they want, enemies they want to get, are the most important things and they’re entitled to get what they want.
5. Everyone is a pawn in their game. You have value only as long as you can help them or worship them … Anyone who doesn’t help or who gets in the way becomes the enemy.
6. Their excuses, excuse. Their reasons are always correct and are enough to justify what they do. If you don’t agree, you simply don’t understand or you’re evil. … They’re saints in their own minds. You’d better agree or else.
7. Their rules, rule. They know how the world should be and how people should act. They’re allowed to do anything they want, to take, attack or strike back in any way they want, but everyone else should be bound by their rules. If your feelings are hurt by what they’ve said or done, it’s your fault and your problem.
I have a sister like this. It's very very tiring. As long as my parents are alive I'm forced to deal with it, but I may never see her again when they are gone.
My dad is like this. After 40 years of it, I finally walked away last year. It has made the rest of the family have to deal with the fallout which is also difficult - but I am glad I did it. They all agree he is like that and think I am selfish, but honestly, I finally learned that no one is going to protect me, except me. I am a lot happier now....
I'm so sorry, redhorse. I get just from reading JW's blog and FB that it must be exhausting. Sometimes we are forced to make those tough decisions. The fact that it is a family member and not just a friend/acquaintance makes it particularly tough. I think, though, that once you've exhausted all efforts at a healthy relationship with this person, and it is not working, then strong boundaries are in order to preserve and keep your own self and life happy and healthy. Not selfish of you, just necessary.
What if Jenna is playing us all for a fool. What if she goes to see the truck and finds it unworthy for some reason.
And then says, oh, I didn't buy it. I hope you poodles don't mind but I will keep the money and fix the Dodge up, the first truck, instead.
Being responsible and all. Her poodle army would think she is such a good girl, such a smart lass, and be all , great idea Jenna!
Then she spend a bit of it for the truck, now with farm plates and all... After all her "speaking engagements" have mostly been in town... So she's saying bucks with the farm plates and could always find a mooch to driver her to anything further.
And she gets to pocket the extra thousand or more after repairs to the old truck.
Hmmm.... I wonder. She is a crafty lass, you know. Loki would be proud of this girl.
Or she just says she bought it, but doesn't....how would they ever know???? How many times do you think she can get away with this Kiva thing? Her fans are idiots.
I doubt the extra thousand even hit her pocket. Look at the new kilt, booze, and whatever else she bought that she hasn't shared yet. "Oh, by the way, I bought a... "fill in the blank with useless, expensive item."
I'm speechless.
ReplyDeleteJenna Woginrich
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Okay folks, here it is: I need a truck. My current truck, the Dakota, has been demoted to the role of farm truck, both by myself and the fine state of New York. That means the truck is still insured, but it isn’t allowed to leave a 25-mile radius of the farm and should only be used for farm work (delivering animals, getting hay, etc). It’s just a beater that I kept beating and it is on her last legs…. it is time to get something dependable, cheap, and trusty.
I found this girl on Craigslist. A 1989 Ford f150! She’s got 4WD, barely any rust, and a NEW transmission! She’s for sale for 2 grand. A truck in this good of shape for that price is a STEAL and exactly what I need for both farm and writing gigs (speaking events, signings, etc). The guys selling it is a musician in Connecticut and we spoke on the phone and worked out the details. This baby is coming to Cold Antler if I can wrangle up the funds this weekend!
I planning on buying this used truck outright. It’s safer, easy and cheap to fix, and honestly… it’s my dream truck. I also am done buying new vehicles, it just isn’t my reality and a payment plan at a dealership isn’t in my budget.
But I don’t have the money for her. That’s where you guys come in. I am asking for help with this loan, which to be funded requires that fifteen people loan me $25 a piece for it to qualify. Note - this is a LOAN, not a kickstarter or crowd funding. You get your money paid back to you, automatically deposited back into your account as I make the small monthly payments to Kiva.
So I’m asking for you to consider making a small loan to help this farm get road worthy again?
CLICK HERE TO LOAN!
https://zip.kiva.org/loans/15887/i/sl3y
63 people have loaned to date. Unbelievable.
DeleteLet me get this straight.
ReplyDeleteShe lets her 2000-whatever Dakota go to pot because she can't afford repairs so the solution is to buy a 26 year old truck for two grand? And now she's going to maintain, register, and insure two trucks? Why not invest 2k into the Dakota? Sounds like she's going to buy it sight unseen -- never mind test drive it. This "new" ancient truck might look clean but the frame could be rotten as well as the brake and fuel lines.....Holy shit is she stupid.
She intends to use this truck to go to speaking events and signings--- hope her speaking fee covers the gas money on this guzzler!
And the money is rolling in!
Better yet, why not buy a tiny, fuel efficient car. If NY says she can keep the old truck for farm use, that would serve her better. She can still drive the older truck into town to get feed. A little car that sips gas is a much better choice for her. Better yet, a tiny hatchback. You can move feed in those. I've done that myself, back when I could only afford one tiny vehicle and would never dream of begging to get a second one. Sometimes you have to make due with what you have. The only thing that makes sense is that Jenna must have a truck because of her image. She can't possibly be seen driving a car. Only poodles drive cars.
DeleteOn the kiva loan site it says she is using the new truck for farm work-- like get feed and hay and the Dakota will be a farm truck........she has six acres what the hell is she gonna do, use it like a motorized wheelbarrow?
ReplyDeleteIf it's not going to leave her property again why wouldn't she sell it? She can sell it outright to someone who could fix it up or get a few hundred from the junk yard.
The Jenna Show gets crazier and crazier.
New York state might prevent you from selling a vehicle that didn't pass inspection. Does anyone know about that? Who would want to buy a truck that didn't pass! Junk yard is the best bet.
DeleteAnd she lied about selling her cart last winter. I wonder how soon she'll repay the loan? I'm sure glad she has a puppy to lift her spirits.
ReplyDeleteAnd she's 50% funded.
DeleteShe only needed partial support to be funded by Kiva, from what I understand.
Here's the piece of crap she will now be using for her "good" truck. This is the epitome of a beater. Also-- had a plow on it! Hahahaha! Hello, rusty frame and lines.
https://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/5151736503.html
If she can afford to do a Kiva loan for a second vehicle maybe she could do one for a new shelter for Merlin. Something with sides.
ReplyDeleteWhat a fucking asshole she is.
I'm laughing my butt off! I'm a transmission engineer in the Detroit area and I can tell you a new transmission for that type of truck costs over $2000. A certified rebuilt trans is over $1000, and a used one will cost $800 and up. For a $2250 purchase price, that new trans is only new to that vehicle; probably bought from a wrecking yard. Hope she got the Carfax! I hope she does buy the truck - I'll get a lot of entertainment out this.
ReplyDeleteThe joke's on her with this one for sure!
DeleteShe neglected her Dakota to the point it was deemed a beater-- why does she think this one will fare any better under her watch?
And what about her root canal?!
ReplyDeleteDoesn't she still make payments on that Dakota? I'm stupified by this latest move. Once again, her "toys" come before her animal care responsibilities. No shelter for Merlin or the pigs, no feeders for anyone, raggedy-ass fencing, and that barn is going to cave in at any moment.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of lying and the root canal in the same sentence. I also simply cannot believe there are such stupid people in the world that would actually donate to someone who refuses to work.
Just... wow.
Look at this guy- he gave up a pizza to loan her money!
DeleteErik ZT Dossier I could have ordered a pizza tonight. You are helping me make good decisions.
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A person on FB commented earlier--- suckas!!!-- or something to that effect--- DELETED!!!
DeleteI would hate to be Jenna, having to patrol my FB for any uprisings!
A loan. Right. JW owing people money that she actually pays back? Not in this lifetime.
ReplyDeleteHard to tell from a picture, but that truck looks like it's in desperate need of tires. Kickstarter!
ReplyDeleteThe ad claims that 2 of the tires have less than 30,000 miles on them. Yeah...I'd say she's gonna need 2 tires and a whole lot more very soon!
ReplyDeleteJenna, you really take the cake! You state that you need 15 people to loan you $25 each, yet your loan amount you ask for is $2250, which means you REALLY want 90 people to each loan you $25. I know math is not your strong point, but even an idiot can figure out that you are trying to fool people. What a scammer!
ReplyDeleteI am laughing my ass off at your paragraph:
I planning on buying this used truck outright. It’s safer, easy and cheap to fix, and honestly… it’s my dream truck. I also am done buying new vehicles, it just isn’t my reality and a payment plan at a dealership isn’t in my budget. "
THIS IS A LIE! YOU ARE NOT PURCHASING ANYTHING OUTRIGHT! YOU ARE BORROWING MONEY FROM POODLES! You still MUST pay this money back just as if it's a bank loan! I hope these poodles have some legal redress when you default. I can see it now: 90 people showing up at your door to repossess that truck.
When was the last time you bought a new vehicle? You had an old junky Subaru and now the Dodge, which wasn't new either. You really need to keep better track of your lies.
Anyone wanna put money on how long it takes before she defaults?
Hahaha! Calm down-- she needed 15 people at $25 to qualify-- she doesn't need to get raise the full amount....the 15 at $25 gets her the money.
DeleteStill! She's insane.
I don't know if you were following as far back as when she got rid of the Subaru but she basically just gave up on it one day much the way she is the Dakota. It wouldn't start so she had it towed away for what sounded like the price of towing! Later, the guy that got it told her he made a lot of money on it. No, kidding-- it was a fairly newish Subaru with not a lot wrong with it.
She has NO SENSE when it comes to money or vehicles.
She kind of just wears stuff out and then throws it away. You have to maintain things if you want them to last-- not her strong suit!
Actually, she does need to raise the FULL amount to get ANY funds! She just needed to get 15 of her own poodles to loan her $25 each before Kiva allows her request to be posted for the public to see. She NEEDS a total of 90 suckas to loan her $25 each. Last I checked, she was 70% funded. As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted!
DeletePer Kiva's FAQ's:
When a loan is posted into the private loan period, the borrower has 15 days to invite the required number of lenders to fund their loan. For loans of $2,500 and under, borrowers must invite five to fifteen lenders, for loans of $2,525 and above, borrowers must invite ten to thirty lenders. Once a borrower reaches the required number of lenders, their loan will be posted to the public Kiva Zip website and have 45 additional days to raise the remaining amount.
If a Kiva Zip loan has not been fully funded after 45 days of public fundraising, it will expire. The loan is removed from the website, any lenders that funded it are refunded their money, and the borrower will receive none of the money.
I stand corrected! I misread what she wrote about it.
DeleteShe's borrowing $2250.
ReplyDeleteCould she not have spent that money to repair the Dakota, which she already owns and is a newer vintage? There is no earthly reason for her to keep two vehicles on the road. That's a lot of $$$ wasted.
Since when is a transmission that has 20,000 miles on it considered a NEW transmission???
ReplyDeleteNot only that, it was used for SNOW PLOWING!
Delete(d) Farm plate vehicle. The term farm plate vehicle shall mean a motor vehicle, trailer or semitrailer registered pursuant to Vehicle
ReplyDeleteand Traffic Law section 401(13) and when operated between points
within New York State on public highways connecting portions of a farm or farms, municipal sanitary landfills and licensed motor vehicle repair shops, and traveling by the most direct route, but in no event
further than 25 miles one-way from a point on the farm as designated by the vehicle owner and set forth in an attachment to the vehicle registration:
(1) between fields, buildings, and facilities managed or operated as part of a single farm enterprise in connection with the production, harvesting, processing or marketing on that farm of crops, livestock, or livestock products produced on that farm; or
(2) for the purpose of transporting materials from a farm to the nearest available municipal sanitary landfill; or
(3) for the purposes of transporting the motor vehicle, trailer or semi-trailer to a motor vehicle repair shop licensed pursuant to
the Vehicle and Traffic Law for the repair or adjustment of
equipment provided that, in addition to the route restrictions set forth in the Vehicle and Traffic Law, no such transport shall be authorized:
(i) if such vehicle has an out-of-service defect relating to
load securement, brake systems, steering components and/or
coupling devices, or after it has been placed out-of-service;
(ii) on any limited access highway; and
(iii) during the period of one hour before sunset to one hour after sunrise.
What part of this law allows Jenna to legally register either vehicle as a farm vehicle?
I was wondering what the advantage is of having farm plates. And NO, the state of New York does not make you get farm plates. You apply for them, because they're cheaper! Farm plates do not require insurance. Wonder how long it will be before she plows into someone with no insurance.
ReplyDeleteNew York State regs:
Farm 16490-FR Farm plates are for moving equipment between farms, migrant worker buses, or from farm to dump, or any other farming activity. Vehicles with Farm plates do not require insurance. They are registered for one year and all expire in December. Plates are validated with a plate sticker. A legitimate farm or livestock operation must be owned in order to qualify for these plates, and specific information regarding the use of the vehicle must be provided to the DMV. FA suffix was used on the Empire State base, and the FR suffix is on the current Empire Gold base.
That's a huge risk for her to take. If she causes an accident in her can't-get-a-sticker Dakota won't she get sued personally for damages? She could lose everything.
DeleteI thought this line was interesting:
"A legitimate farm or livestock operation must be owned in order to qualify for these plates, and specific information regarding the use of the vehicle must be provided to the DMV."
How does someone with a handful of critters in their backyard qualify as a legitimate farm? I'm guessing it doesn't. I'm also guessing she could get in a lot of trouble for this.
What kind of an idiot buys "her dream truck" sight unseen off of Craigslist, or anywhere else for that matter?
ReplyDeleteAgreed, Anon 11:48. I would not even make a minor purchase sight unseen. A vehicle? Idiocy abounds at CAF.
ReplyDeleteI once considered buying an older van. I took it to my mechanic and paid $80 for a bumper-to-bumper analysis of everything that was wrong with it. That van would have cost me hundreds, if not over a thousand in repairs had I bought it without getting it checked out. Needless to say, I did not buy the van. Best $80 I ever spent (since I'm not a mechanic!)
ReplyDeleteIf driving antiquated Fords from the '80s was such a great idea you'd see a hell of a lot more of them still chugging along.
ReplyDeleteThis is the Northeast, salt kills. It's already had one fuel tank removed, hmmm, I wonder if it's because it was too rusty......
How sad is it that she couldn't qualify for a regular bank loan for 2K.........
This is messed up.
You can disagree with her stupid choices all you want, but I can tell you an older Ford is a GOOD truck. Cheap to purchase, cheap to repair and keep on the road. Those trucks (MOST of them) are very dependable and reliable.
DeleteOf course, the truck could be rusted out from all the road salt, like you said. BUT, if it has been well cared for, it could be a good truck for many, many more years. Well, that is, if it is taken care of.
I have no issue with older trucks if, as you say, they were taken care of. I would prefer one myself but finding a good one is very difficult. You can be sure she won't be taking care of it. Her attitude towards vehicles seems to be use 'em up and wear 'em out.
DeleteSome FB comments:
ReplyDeleteGodoy A Jose: If you can find someome to buy my accord ill give you the 2k to buy the truck to be paid back as you can with no strings attached on time frame. Jenna Woginrich and im definitely not understanding this kiva thing. Can i just give you $25 which you can pay back in friendship and smiles?
Thank God this guy doesn't have anyone to buy his Accord...
Anne Art: You could sell the beater to help cover the newer one.
A voice of reason. But she won't listen!
I couldn't believe the comments. All those people forking over their money! Sure, it's a loan but give me a break she doesn't need two trucks.
DeleteAnne Art-- one of the few people that ever speaks reason to her.
How can you find out how the NY DMV defines farm? Not having any luck searching. Other states it is defined in $$$$ of business per year.
ReplyDeleteShe doesn't qualify for Farm Use plates nor does she plan on using it within the limited requirements.
ReplyDeleteNaming a property doesn't constitute a farm.
From the Kiva site:
ReplyDelete1. Discover
Discover inspirational borrowers making a positive impact in their communities.
2. Lend
Support an entrepreneur's dreams. Make a loan to empower their business and livelihood.
3. Connect
Receive repayments on your loan and receive updates on the impact you helped create.
4. Reinvest
Use your repayments to support another borrower and increase your impact.
inspirational borrowers making a positive impact in their communities--- JW???
LENDER BEWARE: There appears to be NO redress for default.
U.S. borrowers on Kiva Zip must invite lenders from their own network (and/or the network of their Trustee) to fund their loan, before they are able to take advantage of Kiva Zip’s crowd of lenders. We view this as an important measure of the borrower’s trust network and hope these lenders keep the borrower accountable for repaying their loan. For loans of $2,500 and under we require borrowers to invite between 5 and 15 lenders from within their network. For loans of $2,525 and above we require borrowers to invite between 10 and 30 lenders from within their network.
How long do I have to fundraise on Kiva Zip?
When a loan is posted into the private loan period, the borrower has 15 days to invite the required number of lenders to fund their loan. For loans of $2,500 and under, borrowers must invite five to fifteen lenders, for loans of $2,525 and above, borrowers must invite ten to thirty lenders. Once a borrower reaches the required number of lenders, their loan will be posted to the public Kiva Zip website and have 45 additional days to raise the remaining amount.
1.2 Loan Collection and Repayment.
Loans are repaid directly by the Zip Borrower(s) to Kiva. As Zip Borrowers repay the Loans, Kiva will post a record on the Zip Website of such repayments actually received by Kiva from the Borrowers. Repayments may be made in periodic installments, depending on the terms of the applicable Loan. Except as may be provided in Section 1.5 ("Principal Loss Scenarios"), any amounts actually received by Kiva from a Zip Borrower as repayment by the applicable Zip Borrower(s) will be distributed among the Lenders on a pro rata basis in accordance with the amounts loaned by such Lenders to such Zip Borrower(s). These distributions may, in Kiva's sole discretion, be made periodically or in one lump sum once 100% of all Loan proceeds for a particular Loan have been received by Kiva. Furthermore, please note that timing of distributions to Lenders of any collected repayment may vary and may be materially impacted because of circumstances that, in Kiva's judgment, require Kiva to conduct further reviews with respect to the collected repayments. If, for any reason, Kiva is unable to collect Loan repayments directly from the Zip Borrowers or if Kiva, for any reason, is unable to collect Loan repayments directly from the Zip Borrower(s), repayment of Loan amounts to Lenders could be at risk of partial or total delay or non-repayment and a loss of some or all of a Lender's principal could occur. Neither Trustee(s) nor the Zip Borrower(s) will have direct contractual obligation or liability to pay any Lender any principal, and Kiva is obligated to repay only such Loan principal to the extent actually received by Kiva from a Zip Borrower (subject to the conditions noted above). None of Kiva or any Trustee or Zip Borrower will have any obligation to pay interest on the Loan or other fees or amounts (other than as expressly set forth above) to any Lender in connection with any Loan made on the Zip Website. You understand that you have no right or authority to seek any payments directly from either a Trustee or Zip Borrower.
http://www.schohariecounty-ny.gov/CountyWebSite/townsew/APPENDIXCOMPLETE04162013.pdf
ReplyDeleteMaybe? not entirely certain.
There's gotta be a commercial aspect to being a farm as far as the plates/DMV is concerned or every person with a garden could have a non-insured farm truck on the road.
ReplyDeleteNew York State Legal Definitions Relating to Agriculture
ReplyDelete§ 301. Definitions. When used in this article:
1. "Agricultural assessment value" means the value per acre assigned to land for assessment
purposes determined pursuant to the capitalized value of production procedure prescribed by section
three hundred four-a of this article.
2. "Crops, livestock and livestock products" shall include but not be limited to the following:
a. Field crops, including corn, wheat, oats, rye, barley, hay, potatoes and dry beans.
b. Fruits, including apples, peaches, grapes, cherries and berries.
c. Vegetables, including tomatoes, snap beans, cabbage, carrots, beets and onions.
d. Horticultural specialties, including nursery stock, ornamental
shrubs, ornamental trees and flowers.
e. Livestock and livestock products, including cattle, sheep, hogs, goats, horses, poultry, ratites, such
as ostriches, emus, rheas and kiwis, farmed deer, farmed buffalo, fur bearing animals, wool bearing
animals, such as alpacas and llamas, milk, eggs and furs.
f. Maple sap.
g. Christmas trees
3. "Farm woodland" means land used for the production for sale of woodland products, including but
not limited to logs, lumber, posts and firewood. Farm woodland shall not include land used to produce
Christmas trees or land used for the processing or retail merchandising of woodland products.
4. "Land used in agricultural production" means not less than seven acres of land used as a single
operation in the preceding two years for the production for sale of crops, livestock or livestock products of
an average gross sales value of ten thousand dollars or more; or, not less than seven acres of land used
in the preceding two years to support a commercial horse boarding operation with annual gross receipts
of ten thousand dollars or more. Land used in agricultural production shall not include land or portions
thereof used for processing or retail merchandising of such crops, livestock or livestock products. Land
used in agricultural production shall also include:
a. Rented land which otherwise satisfies the requirements for eligibility for an agricultural assessment.
a-1. Land used by a not-for-profit institution for the purposes of agricultural research that is intended to
improve the quality or quantity of crops, livestock or livestock products. Such land shall qualify for an
agricultural assessment upon application made pursuant to paragraph (a) of subdivision one of section
three hundred five of this article, except that no minimum gross sales value shall be required.
b. Land of not less than seven acres used as a single operation for the production for sale of crops,
livestock or livestock products, exclusive of woodland products, which does not independently satisfy the
gross sales value requirement, where such land was used in such production for the preceding two years
and currently is being so used under a written rental arrangement of five or more years in conjunction with
land which is eligible for an agricultural assessment.
It's hurts... Make it stop. Pleeeease..... Didn't her momma teach her any sense? She is such a scam artist. She knows all the ins and outs of internet begging and money grubbing. Gads she should write a book about it all. How I get saps to fund my fantasy life. My gawd. Just can not freaking believe this. And can not b elieve those that are funding this! Jenna? Two years of payments? For a rust bucket? She's always behind in her house payment and now no root canal, new puppy, stupid shit from amazon, pony cart etc etc etc etc didn't she just sell her meat birds to stupid people for some insane price? Oh wait that money came in weeks and weeks ago, it's all gone. Oh my gawd, it just makes my head spin to watch her puppet show unfold like some rotten onion as she preys on these stupid stupid people! And this loan? They don't even make a dime? No interest? Nothing? Ugh...
ReplyDeleteTake heart, she's the most miserable person I've ever seen. What happiness or joy can she ever get from life if people are seen merely as resources --- she's incapable of the vulnerability necessary for meaningful relationships. Jenna is always #1 and what a sad, empty way that is to live.
Delete""Land used in agricultural production" means not less than seven acres of land used as a single
ReplyDeleteoperation in the preceding two years for the production for sale of crops, livestock or livestock products of
an average gross sales value of ten thousand dollars or more; or, not less than seven acres of land used"
soooo.......not a farm then?
She has 6.5 acres--- couldn't possibly be grossing 10k on it.......
Said she had 7 acres recently, spinning the web...
DeleteIt's 6.5.
Deletehttp://www.washingtoncountyny.gov/DocumentCenter/Home/View/2489
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207 Colfax Rd 925J100886
239.-2-75 210 1 Family Res COUNTY TAXABLE VALUE 30,300
Woginrich Jenna Cambridge 535010 6,350 TOWN TAXABLE VALUE 30,300
70 Sophies Way House & Barn 30,300 SCHOOL TAXABLE VALUE 30,300
Arlington, VT 05250 ACRES 6.50 FD422 Cambridge fire 30,300 TO M
EAST-0789210 NRTH-1546518
DEED BOOK 2824 PG-5
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Actually, it says Jenna Woginrich in Arlington, VT. I thought she was in New York?
DeleteI think that might be the mailing address, she would have lived there when she bought the place she's on now.
DeleteThis is the tax info for Washington Co.-- if you follow the link and search for her name you will see it makes more sense.
She's just lying about the state MAKING her downgrade it to a farm vehicle.... Just making the sob story better so her poodle stupid fans will fund her fantasy life.
ReplyDeleteShe downgraded it herself when she didn't bother to maintain and repair it.
Deletemy sister just bought the same truck though a bit newer. Within 2 weeks, her husband was stranded on the side of the road and it needed a new engine.
ReplyDeleteI literally just laughed out loud when I read this-- thank you. No offense meant to your sister, though!
Deleteit is hilarious , though yes, not for my sister!! And they even had the truck checked out first. Site unseen is just DUMB espec for a VERY OLD American truck. (I don't hate America, but we do not build the most lasting trucks....sorry)
DeleteOh, it's crazy dumb.
DeleteThe guy selling could be untruthful or just not too smart about trucks and tell her XYZ, it's great, runs like a champ, blah blah.....
how do all these loaners not know about all the rest of us who lost our money to her...never to be seen again...and ours wasn't even a loan. It was for a product never delivered. YOU ALL WILL NEVER BE PAID BACK. EVER. The poor mechanic who worked on her Dakota, on a payment plan, is still waiting for the rest of his money from her. This must make him fume...
ReplyDelete48 lenders so far!
DeleteWrite to Kiva-- if she cheated you they should be interested to know.
Ha, well call me Jenna Trump you minions of poddledom!
ReplyDeleteI got the farm plates and now have field cred as I ride my truck into town looking like Ol'Macdonald, hipster fantasy badda bing
And guess what, no insurance needed, well pour me a haymaker and let Gibson drive while I figure out the next money rush for CAF
Damn, money is kale baby
THAT kind of truck has to be tinkered with ALL.THE.TIME to keep it going. Its not a one and done thing. JW is going to be MOST unhappy when she learns this....She will dump it within one year.
ReplyDeleteFor sure, I envision much pumping of the gas peddle before grumbling to life whilst emitting copious amounts of blue smoke from the tail pipe.....on it's good days.
DeleteWhat about the environmental aspect? Doubling your carbon footprint. Two vehicles for one person? A John Deere Gator would suit her "farming" needs better. Besides, wasn't she the one who said she would never use a tractor - that she would use her logging pony for all her hauling needs.
ReplyDeleteLet the poodles fund her! This latest episode will provide much entertainment value. No animals involved, no empty promises of wheat, wool, cherished knit hats, e-books. Just a girl and her truck.
I'm sure a wheelbarrow would be more than adequate for her needs.
DeleteYou're right, though-- no animals this time! we can just enjoy the show.
With all the drinking Jenna does, it would not surprise me to learn she crashed and totaled the Dakota while inebriated. Jenna admits to buying a silly dog shirt while being drunk. What else has Jenna done while drunk that she has not disclosed? Alcoholism is a serious matter.
ReplyDeleteJenna, consider Rethinking Drinking, a website by National Institutes of Health.
http://rethinkingdrinking.niaaa.nih.gov/
Jenna, also see Excess alcohol affecting farm families, By Dr. Mike Rosmann IFT columnist, May 03, 2013
http://www.iowafarmertoday.com/feature/columnists/farm_and_ranch_life/excess-alcohol-affecting-farm-families/article_29bf8796-b429-11e2-84d4-0019bb2963f4.html
"How do farm and ranch people manage — or not manage — alcohol consumption?
In 1991, Lorrin Walker, Don Warren and Jill Greenwalt published an article entitled "The Good Life on the Ranch, or Myths and Misconceptions, or the Drunk Cowboy Syndrome," which may be as true today as when it was written.
The "Drunk Cowboy Syndrome" applies to farmers as well as ranchers.
Many hard-working ranchers use alcohol to numb physical pain, the authors suggested.
As the workday goes along and they become sore from strenuous physical activities, these ranchers consume alcohol to reduce their sensations of pain, often starting to drink around midday.
Alcohol enables cowboys to keep working. It has created a myth — the authors say — that drinking to deal with pain is acceptable.
As the people who take care of the land and livestock age, they develop more physical pains, such as arthritis and other musculoskeletal issues, and they drink alcohol in ever greater amounts until they "just can’t" any longer.
They model the use of alcohol as acceptable to their children and grandchildren who work with them.
SOMETIMES, RANCHERS use alcohol to avoid psychological pain as well, spouses say. If they drink enough beer or hard liquor, they don’t have to think about things that bother them, even if only temporarily.
Some farmers and ranchers visit the bar on a daily basis or keep a cooler with alcoholic beverages stashed in their pickup trucks. Drinking alcohol has become part of the culture.
Do people involved in agriculture consume more alcohol than persons not engaged in agricultural occupations?
Drs. Jim Merchant and Craig Zwerling and other associates at the University of Iowa have been gathering health risk data from residents of a highly agricultural Iowa county for many years in what has become known as the Keokuk County Rural Health Study (www.kcrhs.org).
While not representative of all the agricultural population, their 2001 report of 1,583 study participants indicated binge drinking was equally frequent among farmers, rural non-farmers and townspeople over 25 years of age. Men (24 percent) were more likely to binge drink than women (9 percent).
Male farmers over 65 years of age were less than half as likely as younger male farmers to report a history of alcohol abuse. Binge drinking decreased with age for both men and women.
HOW MUCH alcohol is consumed by rural youths and what effects does it have? The University of Iowa research team also surveyed binge drinking by youths.
part 2
ReplyDeleteBinge drinking was defined as consumption of five or more drinks of beer, wine or liquor on the same occasion.
Among 621 youths in the Keokuk County study aged 12-17, 12.8 percent reported an episode of binge drinking during the previous 30 days.
Boys who reported binge drinking were 2.2 times more likely to experience an injury of some kind than boys who did not report binge drinking. Girls who reported binge drinking were 8.1 times more likely to incur an injury than girls who did not report binge drinking. Only 5 percent of the reported injuries occurred on farms.
The Keokuk County study used health interview survey data gathered from 1994-98. More-recent adolescent alcohol use information gathered in 2009 was reported in 2012 by the Maine Rural Health Research Center.
Youths age 12-13 who lived in rural areas were more likely (10.4 percent) than urban youths (9.1 percent) to report binge drinking. As they aged, youthful rural binge drinkers were also more likely to report driving a vehicle while under the influence of alcohol than urban counterparts.
Rural youths, their families and peers, were less likely to disapprove of youth drinking than urban residents. The survey did not separate youths who lived on farms and ranches from other rural residents.
It is well known inebriation increases the risk of injuries and death while engaged in farming activities, according to a 2010 article in the "American Journal of Industrial Medicine."
Inebriation reduces reaction time, accuracy of motor movements, impulse control and rational thinking, and increases risk-taking. It diminishes the perception of pain and emotional turmoil but simultaneously increases many other negative health consequences.
We have to ask ourselves: "Are drunk cowboys and farmers safe and competent?" Most available evidence says "No."
Need help? Call 800-521-7128 or 866-416-2862.
Dr. Mike Rosmann lives in Harlan. Contact him at: www.agbehavioralhealth.com."
I've thought she had an alcohol problem for a couple years. I don't know if it caused her to quit working or it got worse after she quit working, but I think it goes hand in hand. I don't know if her enablers understand what they are contributing to.
DeleteI can certainly see the relavence of your comments, but in reality Jenna doesn't work that hard. If she is drinking in excess it's due to boredom and loneliness not the pain of hard work. It's still an issue though especially when she seems so publicly proud of her drinking and the results...impulse buying that completely ugly shirt.
DeleteJenna drinks because she thinks it makes her look cool. It cracks me up that she has to brag about drinking like she just turned 21. We're adults, we can drink. It's not a big deal, and not something to brag about unless you just turned 21. Grow up, Jenna.
DeleteJust saw the pickup she's getting on Craig's list. It will be interesting this winter when she tries to get it into 4WD - does she know what locking hubs are and what they do? In 1989, you generally had to lock the hubs manually; they didn't lock automatically as they do now. I also wonder if she knows not to drive it in 4WD on bare roads so as not to burn up the transmission and transfer case.
ReplyDeleteOf course she doesn't know any of this. All she is after is satisfying the immediate want if her 5 years old brain and the supposed cool factor.
DeleteWait till she's broken down in some snow bound road, won't look so cool then.
Ugh. My family has several vehicles with farm plates (we run a business, a "real" one that employs a few dozen people). They're used to haul greengoods across our land, and an occasional local delivery of product. PERIOD.
ReplyDeleteThere are significant insurance & plate fee benefits, which is wonderful when your business requires multiple vehicles - a very expensive necessity. There are also strict rules that must be complied with.
If you screw it up and get caught, you can lose ALL of your farm plate benefits. Every time some moron gets "farm plates" for giggles and to look "cowboy cool", they jeopardize the government revoking this privilege/loophole in the DMV requirements for the rest of us.
Not to mention.... keeping a spare vehicle around, when you're strapped for cash, is about the most stupid business decision possible. The moment something is not functional, making more money than it costs, it gets sold. Auction, Craigslist, scrap, whatever. Sold. We're not automobile collectors, we need our equipment to make money.
This makes my head explode. And that tshirt she drunkenly bought off of Amazon prime, while asking people to donate that amount for a second vehicle? WTF.
~A
Wholeheartedly AGREE A!
DeleteI have farm plates as well and also worry about these faux farmers messing it up for real farmers that use them correctly.
Thanks! People like us who appreciate the $$$ savings for fair, legal business practice, should all be legitimately upset.....
Delete~A
Q. What's the difference between a sheep and a poodle?
ReplyDeleteA. The sheep knows when it's been fleeced.
She needs a bumper sticker that reads: "100% Poodle Powered"
ReplyDeleteShe posted on FB that she got funded and the money is on its way to the seller.
ReplyDeleteSomeone asked if she had a mechanic look at it and she quipped back that all precautions had been taken. Sure they have.
One bright side- I believe the Kiva page stays up, so her repayments, or lack of them, will be documented tot he public. Pretty sad that a 32 year old has such lousy credit -or no savings-that she has to get a 'loan' from followers.
ReplyDeleteAnd, for only $2000. good grief even my teen has that much in saving.
ReplyDeleteJW is no adult. She's a child in a large body
So, she got the truck, bully for her. But how is she going to get it? Which one of the enabling poodles will drive her to another state to pick it up and how will she manage because as she's mentioned a million times she can't be far from the farm because of the animals or to be more precise the animal escapes?
ReplyDeleteThe real question is: will the truck make it to Jackson without having to be towed?
DeleteAnyone see the latest blog in response to someone politely asking why she's not getting a part time job to help with expenses? It's over the top obnoxious. Closing line: "How's your day going, homie? Pretty good? I hope so. Cause if this commenting on stranger's blogs thing isn't working out you may need to make a change. "
ReplyDeleteEverybody's friends when the money is flowing her way--- if she gets criticism--- hey, now, we're strangers!
DeleteWow! What an over the top response to a polite inquiry! Wee bit defensive Jenna? Or is that the alcohol talking?
ReplyDeleteShe let Ginger's comment through on purpose. I know, because she will not publish any comment I've made on her blog. Someone must be giving her a hard time about this latest beg-fest, and she's looking to vent on an innocent bystander. Hope Ginger finds her way here.
ReplyDeleteAnd the poodles who continually bail her out think they know who she is because of her blog? Not by a long shot as a few local commenters to this site gave attested.
ReplyDeleteShe's no better than a panhandler on the street.
You should read her entire response. She just dumped on this poor Ginger. I'm sure Ginger is by far not the only one that wrote her about this, but she got the lucky number for JW to rake her over the coals for a reasonable suggestion.
ReplyDeleteIs Jenna's response a reflection of her heathen values?
ReplyDeleteNah, I think it showed a total lack of control of the self.
DeleteJW: Click this link to read my response to this delightful person.
ReplyDeletehttp://coldantlerfarm.blogspot.com/2015/08/dear-ginger.html
She's actually PROUD of her response to that person?
You should see the FB responses to that. Ginger's parents have been insulted; he/she's been called "angry"; and one mature poster even called him inhuman and threatened to shoot him/her. "....one fella is handing back his 'member of the human race' card and swiftly returning to the stone from whence he crawled! Haha! Don't raise your head above the parapet, Ginger!! Boom!"
Oh, well. The readership over there is sinking to new lows. One posted: " I'm contemplating leaving my full-time office job to work multiple part-time jobs that are more fulfilling and give me more time to focus on important things while still supporting a home, 5 kids, and traveling to visit my husband in prison weekly or bi-weekly. Part of the reason I feel confident to try and do this is because of stories like yours. Thank you for keeping it real."
Good Lord.
Hey, if anyone's parents are going to be insulted it oughta be Ms.Antler's. Raising such a nasty, narcissistic, animal abusing internet thief demands explanation.
DeleteGinger's response was short, calm, and rational. Jenna's was anything but. And for Jenna to be doing this after she just spent over a thousand dollars on a puppy she didn't need is MIND-BOGGLING.
Delete-CdP
Oh, and this gem of a response to the FB posting.
ReplyDelete"I bet Ginger has a really awesome corporate job in a cubicle. She clearly doesn't have any business reading a farming blog."
Ha! Doesn't this poster realize that JW supports herself off people that work in cubicles, and their incomes?"
She says on her shield mare blog that she's a libertarian. How does she reconcile that with all this begging? She'd better not take Medicare or Social Security, although Aym Rand took the former!
ReplyDeleteI don't know what's worse--the over the top, mean-spirited reply to a fairly innocuous comment, or the folks on Facebook totally tearing into the commenter like a pack of wolves. It's juvenile and ugly. Jenna should be ashamed.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately she's very very proud of the fact that she has sooooo many admirers, regardless of the fact that they too are probably office dwelling drones with dreams of their own. Only difference is they are funding JW's dream and not their own.
DeleteIt also begs the question if office dwellers don't belong on farming blogs then why are most of JW's followers on her blog. A lot of them have said they do not have a farm, but would like one some day. And, even JW did not always live on a farm in the country.
Where you work doesn't matter. I have been a corporate executive, farmer, livestock producer/showman/seller for more than 30 years. One doesn't have anything to do with the other...other than the fact that JW and her followers have no clue what is going on in the farming community, traditional, sustainable or diversified.
Fantasy is fine but eventually you have to live in reality. Wait till she's in her 40's or 50's and things are not going so well. That bridge she'd rather live under won't look so appealing.
Unleash the Poodles!!!!!!
DeleteI used to be insulted by her begging, and lying.. and hubris, and disdain for good people.. Now I pity her.. This will all come home to roost soon enough. Look at all the people here commenting.. NEGATIVELY. Imagine how many more don't comment, but are in agreement. Good luck on your, ahem, new truck Jenna. Maybe it will last you a winter.. Maybe. I pray for you, I do.. I think it's gotten to that point now.
ReplyDeleteI know a lot of people who read this blog and never comment!
Deletemdoe37 said...
ReplyDelete" I was waiting for one of "those" people. Let me comment....
Ginger dear, unless you are really, really disabled, there is absolutely no reason your income is fixed. That's on you. If you require government assistance, I don't care....but realize someone (we and including Jenna) fund you. I know personally this household could do TONS more if I didn't have to pay all those taxes.
You need to change your thinking "Do With" instead of "Do Without".
*****
I thought the truck was quite modest.....hopefully the beast serve you well.
A name, the truck needs a name. And maybe a set of antlers on the hood."
This is my favorite reply because the person is too stupid to realize that the person Jenna is angry with basically just said the same thing to Jenna. She is backing up the view of that person, rather than Jenna.
Jenna's letting the poodles help her pick out her new eye wear on FB. Someone actually told her the frames were bringing out her inner Aniston-- Jenna enjoyed that! She is whipping up some strong kool-aid and the fans are thirsty.
ReplyDeleteAnd "Ginger's" comment was fairly innocuous -- hardly worth Jenna's time responding, too-- I mean, she told us how she's got the Good Life going on 24/7 up in the North Country (did she just move? Jackson's not in it) you'd think she'd have better things to do. I have to laugh -- she'd rather live under a bridge than return to office work-- but the majority of her many occupations she's boasting about are butt-in-chair jobs.
I don't think she's was talking to "Ginger" at all-- I think she's reading this blog.
She's trumpeting because she can have a pizza delivered to her door--- some guy GAVE UP his pizza last night to fund her loan!
ReplyDeleteWTF! Chick needs a WAKE UP call!!
These people will never see a penny back. Ever. And I think they and Jenna know it. It doesn't hurt too badly to lose $25.00. "Aw shucks, Jenna, just keep it. I can go without pizza." It's just a new way for Jenna to scam money.
ReplyDeleteAnd the best part is, if she defaults she still keeps the truck!
DeleteAnon 10:45, you hit the nail on the head! This is the main reason she did Kiva...so she could default on payments (or skip them altogether) and keep her truck. That's the reason she didn't (or couldn't) get a loan from a bank...you know, accountability and all that.
Delete"I do without many things I can't afford, Ginger."
ReplyDelete$500-1000 puppy plus shipping from Idaho
new kitten
Two new pairs of glasses
new running shoes
New albums
WoW
Alcohol, sweet, sweet alcohol
Ugly dog shirt
Amazon Prime
Two trucks
TKD class
This is just shit I can recall lately. Yeah, she's living such a life of deprivation and need!
That puppy was $1000 plus shipping ($250).
Delete"Suzy I.August 7, 2015 at 8:59 PM
ReplyDeleteI have an observation about those who have firsthand knowledge of poverty, either because they used to be poor or are currently experiencing it. I am in the former category, thank goodness, and I am not going to tell you "how bad I had it." Trust me, it was bad. But I think that many people who describe their financial difficulties in online comments wear it as a badge of honor, and use their status to hector those who they feel aren't "being poor" appropriately. Anyway, my observation is that people who are having, or who have experienced poverty, fall into two camps: Those who have empathy towards others who are facing lean times, and those who are sanctimonious harpies.
Jenna, I've walked a mile in your shoes, and if there was a Kiva when I hit my rough patch, I'd have been all over that like a chicken on a junebug.
Ginger, lighten up."
Jennas NOT poor! She's the most active consumer I don't know.
Unreal.
Do people not realize what poor is?
Poor is wondering where you will get fresh water from or if you're lucky diluting juice to make it stretch 10x as far. Not pouring booze out. That's liquid gold to the poor.
Poor is limiting traveling because of the expense of gas...if you're fortunate enough to have a car...not purchasing a second vehicle after FLYING a puppy cross country.
I could go on and on and on.
Girl is wealthy not poor.
Notice Jenna acknowledged the question about what happens if more than the mom minimum amount of people donate...I mean loan?
ReplyDeleteThat was her plan. Get 100 people to loan $25.
She did indeed ask for more than the asking price which included obo...and trade for a 4x4. Why not trade the Dakota for the ford?
I'm sure she was hoping for plenty of overage. As it is, it sounded like some people were going to skip kiva and loan it to her outright.
DeleteI see she's let through a couple negative comments-- she knows if the Fifi Brigade gets a whiff of it they'll do all the dirty work of telling these people off for her.
ReplyDeleteCracks me up she keeps harping on the "you must be a miserable person if you're mean to me." Um, nope! I'm a perfectly happy person. Why does she think it's ok to open her life to the public when she's begging for money, but the moment someone doesn't cheer her on she says it's only HER business? Get real.
ReplyDeleteAnd the attitude of her whole clan...you can "let the community" help you. Like it's a privilege for people to give her charity? And it IS charity.
Jenna, Kiva isn't a loan for you. Get real. It's a donation. Just like the Gofundme money you stole from those people. Because we ALL know there will NEVER be a Birchthorn book.
Shame. On. You.
I'll never understand why Jenna and the Enablers equate remarks like Ginger's with "cruelty", hatred, meanness, etc.....if someone with an ounce of sense really really loved her, they would tell her what Ginger told her. The people on that blog who are filled with hate and feelings of adolescent entitlement are Jenna and the Enablers. Jenna hates the word WORK and has a major tantrum every time someone suggests she should do it.
ReplyDeleteIt's also a very cruel and somewhat nefarious tactic to take any criticism or questions about yourself or your actions and turn it around so that the question-asker looks crazy or afflicted with some psychological misery. It's gaslighting, pure and simple. "No, disregarding your questions about my spending issues, or cruelty to animals, or lying about my circumstances....YOU are the problem, dear reader! YOU are unhappy and miserable and are amusing yourself by accusing me and asking me these ridiculous questions!" It should be noted this is the classic response of a malignant narcissist to a perceived threat.
ReplyDeleteShe's learned from the master- J. Katz.
DeleteSpeak of the Devil. Has anyone seen his lovely blog post in which he demonstrates how not to train a puppy? It includes outdated dominance theory and kicking his puppy in the stomach because it jumps up on a kid.
Delete1. They think they know best about everything. They know what’s best for you; just ask them…
ReplyDelete2. Their excitement is contagious and sweeps you along. Whether it’s for a new product, career, love interest or activity, it’s the best and greatest, even if it’s the opposite of what they thought 10 minutes ago. You should jump on board if you know what’s good for you.
3. They think they don’t have anything to learn. They’re new employees or interns who know everything and don’t need to learn from people who are already doing their jobs well … They insist on doing it their way, even though they fail repeatedly. They won’t listen; especially when they’re failing.
4. They’re more important than you are. Actually, they’re more important than the rest of the world … Their feelings get hurt easily and are powerful justifications for anger, retaliation and revenge. Their jealousies, issues and concerns (not yours) become the focus of all interactions. Their desires for promotions, toys they want, relationships they want, enemies they want to get, are the most important things and they’re entitled to get what they want.
5. Everyone is a pawn in their game. You have value only as long as you can help them or worship them … Anyone who doesn’t help or who gets in the way becomes the enemy.
6. Their excuses, excuse. Their reasons are always correct and are enough to justify what they do. If you don’t agree, you simply don’t understand or you’re evil. … They’re saints in their own minds. You’d better agree or else.
7. Their rules, rule. They know how the world should be and how people should act. They’re allowed to do anything they want, to take, attack or strike back in any way they want, but everyone else should be bound by their rules. If your feelings are hurt by what they’ve said or done, it’s your fault and your problem.
http://www.sagaciousnewsnetwork.com/malignant-narcissism-is-about-control/
I have a sister like this. It's very very tiring. As long as my parents are alive I'm forced to deal with it, but I may never see her again when they are gone.
DeleteMy dad is like this. After 40 years of it, I finally walked away last year. It has made the rest of the family have to deal with the fallout which is also difficult - but I am glad I did it. They all agree he is like that and think I am selfish, but honestly, I finally learned that no one is going to protect me, except me. I am a lot happier now....
DeleteI'm so sorry, redhorse. I get just from reading JW's blog and FB that it must be exhausting. Sometimes we are forced to make those tough decisions. The fact that it is a family member and not just a friend/acquaintance makes it particularly tough. I think, though, that once you've exhausted all efforts at a healthy relationship with this person, and it is not working, then strong boundaries are in order to preserve and keep your own self and life happy and healthy. Not selfish of you, just necessary.
ReplyDeleteThis weird what if thought crossed my mind.
ReplyDeleteWhat if Jenna is playing us all for a fool. What if she goes to see the truck and finds it unworthy for some reason.
And then says, oh, I didn't buy it. I hope you poodles don't mind but I will keep the money and fix the Dodge up, the first truck, instead.
Being responsible and all. Her poodle army would think she is such a good girl, such a smart lass, and be all , great idea Jenna!
Then she spend a bit of it for the truck, now with farm plates and all... After all her "speaking engagements" have mostly been in town... So she's saying bucks with the farm plates and could always find a mooch to driver her to anything further.
And she gets to pocket the extra thousand or more after repairs to the old truck.
Hmmm.... I wonder. She is a crafty lass, you know. Loki would be proud of this girl.
Or she just says she bought it, but doesn't....how would they ever know???? How many times do you think she can get away with this Kiva thing? Her fans are idiots.
DeleteI doubt the extra thousand even hit her pocket. Look at the new kilt, booze, and whatever else she bought that she hasn't shared yet. "Oh, by the way, I bought a... "fill in the blank with useless, expensive item."
Delete"Speaking engagements"?? Oh, you mean her sign holding job for sales at Job Lot?
ReplyDelete