Sunday, January 4, 2015

Debts unpaid

Debts before ponies and kittens please

http://coldantlersham.blogspot.com/2014/12/still-has-not-paid-her-debts.html?m=1

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  1. Good to know for anyone affected, Meredith. I almost donated, once, when she was trying to get a down payment for her "farm", not realizing it was just the first of many, many pleas for money after that.

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  2. anyone know when her "computer crashed" and she lost all the records of her wool CSA? how many years after beginning to fraud people out of money?

    makes you wonder if the computer crashed or if she just wanted a reader to send a new one...

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  3. Jenna is trying to make things right, she needs to keep better records so people get whatbthey paid for but she seems sincere and public about the need to make amends
    Lets forgive her and move on to her next enterprise

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  4. From her infamous 9//14 post entitled "A Week at Home", JW writes "When I am indoors, I'll be working writing here in the kitchen on my 12-year-old eMac (My "good" computer may be dead...a 2010 iMac which won't read the hard drive as of yesterday, so that is pretty awful if I can't save it...). This older mac model looks like R2D2 and weighs about as much, but it has the internet and email so I can update you here, thank Brigit. " ...

    and in the comments section
    "Jenna said...Computer update: it's done for. Spoke with an Apple service guy, harddrive is erased but pretty much everything work related is backed up on email/cloud. It was the personal/gaming/art stuff I lost. So it's more an emotional lesson than a business one. I need to take it to the apple store in albany next week. Frustrating, but not really a big deal. Going outside to stack wood - firewood is a real world concern!
    September 15, 2014 at 1:54 PM"

    Looks like JW's nose continues to grow!

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    1. That should have said 9/15/14 post

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    2. Good find...not sure how she can defend that one.

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  5. Anyone remember this JW post?

    Thursday, May 17, 2012
    "June 8th 2012
    I can finally share my Big News, since now all the pieces have fallen into place. I do apologize for being a blatant tease but the pay off is worth it. This is the big one folks, everything I have been working for on paper, books, workshops, and sweat and tears:

    I have resigned from my position at the office and will be a full-time author and farmer from here on out. I'll be making a living through my own words, choices, and actions as a self-employed business owner here in Washington County. I'll be writing and hosting workshops and events to cover the mortgage and growing my own food and livestock to cover the groceries. For eight years I have been working towards this one thing, and my last day at work is June 7th. Time to jump.

    I have made all the preparations. There's a humble, but survivable, nest of savings set aside and I am arranging alternative health insurance through my local chamber of commerce. I have projects lined up and much work and writing ahead of me, not to mention the workshops and events here at the farm. I am not asking for any help from the readers, and won't. This is my choice and my life and I can't spend any more time of it behind a desk working for somebody else. I have to make this step or I'll never be able to respect myself. I am thrilled and somber about it. Making this decision is a step I have been hesitating over out of nothing but fear. Fear isn't welcome here anymore. Ever.

    I am so happy about this, so terrified about this, and so very ready for this.

    June 8th is the first day of the rest of my life."


    IN JW'S OWN WORDS: "I have made all the preparations. ... I am not asking for any help from the readers, and won't."

    Can you hear me laughing hysterically in the background?!

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    1. June 8th is my birthday! Truly was the first day of the rest of my life...in 1984.

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  6. She has the records on her pay pal. She could get statements from even years back. If she wanted to put in the time, she could figure out who she still owes for both the wool and the webinars. Terrible business practices and no business model.

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  7. While most who follow(ed) Jenna seem to dream of a homestead on acreage, one of my favorite blogs is Northwest Edible Life. This one's about *suburban* homesteading on 1/3 acre, but I daresay this family of four eats far more from their property in a month than JW produces in an entire year. Wannabe homesteaders would do well to aspire to this (ahem) more mature approach to energy, the garden, animals, and finances (including the issue of blog monetization) regardless of the size their dreams. http://www.nwedible.com/2015/01/goals-for-2015.html

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    1. Yes yes! Another of my favorites:
      http://benhewitt.net/

      I'm looking forward to the new book he has coming out in a few weeks, 'The Nourishing Homestead.'

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    2. I love both those blogs, but the mere thought of all that snow and ice makes my southern bones shiver! Does anyone have suggestions of similar thoughtful homesteading or farming writers/bloggers with experience in southern climates?

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    3. I love NW Edible and Ben Hewitt! Appalachian Feet (http://www.appalachianfeet.com/) is a really great blog for southern gardeners/homesteaders/permaculturists--Eliza hasn't blogged much in the last year or so as she's been busy with teaching local classes and creating a local permaculture group, but her blog archives are extensive and thorough. She's a legit Master Gardener and Master Naturalist.

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    4. Thanks for the links to the other blogs! I am enjoying the Elliot Homestead blog as well: http://theelliotthomestead.com/

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  8. One thing about Jenna that I find very duplicitous is that she just offers refunds on the wool CSA but not on the webinars. I assume that means that she knows that there are a lot more webinar folk who would demand refunds, and she doesn't want to pay them. The idea that she didn't just REFUND the money as soon as she realized that she had no product to sell is mind-boggling.

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  9. I am familiar with the CSA drama, but must have missed the webinar or forgotten it. Refresher?

    -Q

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  10. She offered 9-12 webinars in one year for $100. They were to be instructional video how-to's for things like playing a dulcimer, spinning wool, etc etc. At the end of the year we would get all of them on a DVD to refer back to. We only got one webinar. No money back.

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    1. I wish the webinar thing would get more airtime, because in some ways it's more heinous than the wool CSA failure. With the CSA, she and her supporters can kind of handwave it away by saying, "Well, there's risk inherent in a CSA and that's just the way the cookie crumbles!" But with the webinar subscription, there is just no excuse. Webinars don't suffer crop failure because of heavy rains or a late frost. A webinar is not at all dependent on the vagaries of farming, just the vagaries of JW's whims and distractions. The fact that the took payment for 9-12 webinars and only ever produced one and never refunded the money is straight up fraud.

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  11. Oh good grief. That's disgusting. I am so sorry she did that to you. And now to not own up to it either...

    -Q

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  12. I agree that the webinar debacle was fraud, and I think it's highly suspicious that she's not specifically asking for her webinar customers to contact her. She did say on Facebook something about "wool CSA and webinars," but she's making no effort at all to contact the webinar people. It's incredible that she didn't just offer refunds once she realized that she had no idea how to make webinars is just amazing.

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  13. Is anyone else concerned by her Facebook post yesterday that she's thinking about starting another CSA, considering she hasn't delivered yet on any of her other ones?

    "Considering a small membership poultry CSA for four local families/individuals. It would be pasture-raised meat birds, fed local non-GMO feed, and would include 6 whole birds for your freezer 3 times this summer. If anyone local is interested, please let me know."

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    1. She gave herself campylobactor poisoning a couple of years ago, I remember when she wrote about it and it sounded awful. There is no way I would take one of her butchered birds unless it was processed by a professional, for safety reasons

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    2. Um, and just how is "Our Lady of Dry Plucking a Turkey by Truck Headlights Because She Didn't Start Early Enough in the Day" planning on quickly and efficiently processing 24 birds at a time?? Do you think she knows anything about getting a good scald, or ice baths and air chilling? Or is she planning on dry plucking them all? I wouldn't eat one of her home processed chickens either--who knows what her process would be!

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    3. Like her pastured pigs? Confined to.a small pen and let out as piglets to run in the road for photo ops and a single pig confined in.a dark.barn.

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    4. She'll charge her readers to do the dirty work in a workshop. I'm not being facetious.

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    5. Tin whistle workshop aka music to clean the barn by, get out there now homesteaders!

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  14. Ok here is a prime example where she is a actively using Facebook as an extension of her business and source of advertisement and contact. This is why I believe the manner in which she presents herself is detrimental to the majority.

    Also, CSA or otherwise, when it comes to.selling meat it is my understanding it must be USDA certified and slaughtered/processed at a USDA inspected facility. You can not slaughter, kill, and sell.meat from your backyard. CSA doesn't mean anything in this equation. I should know. I paid for the process so I would have the ability to sell meat (read gave away as gifts, ate myself, my parents reimburse me for as they pick through the freezer which is at their house).

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    1. My understanding is that if you are selling retail cuts to the public, then yes, the meat must be processed and packaged at an approved facility (USDA if across state lines, state-approved if within your home state). You must also have an approved label with your meat handling license #, your contact info, relevant state or federal seals, and the package weight--again, USDA if across state lines, state-approved if within home state. However, some states have exemptions for chicken processing (and perhaps for other types of meat, too, but almost always for chickens)--you can process X birds a year on your farm and sell them whole, where X is under a certain number. In my state, I think X is something like 5,000 or so, and there was talk recently about introducing legislation to raise the on-farm limit so it would be worth it for local, sustainable farmers to install processing equipment on their own farms. (My state has a very severe lack of processors, and there's only one USDA processor in the entire state.)

      That said, a meat bird CSA makes zero sense, and is just another of JW's schemes to accept payment for product that may or may not be delivered. I have never heard of a broiler CSA. Real farmers raise their broilers, have them processed, and then sell them. Sometimes they sell them to their mailing list or a buyer's club, sometimes they sell at a local market, sometimes they sell wholesale to local retailers. But they never take payment in full before the chickens have (literally!) hatched. The only time anyone ever takes pre-payment on poultry is when they're taking deposits on pastured turkeys--and that's mostly because otherwise it would be a feeding frenzy the week before Thanksgiving when people start frantically searching for a local turkey.

      So I guess my point is that it is probably legal for JW to sell a small number of chickens direct from her farm. And for all we know, she may actually be planning on taking them to a processor, in which case it would be totally fine. But to use a CSA model for broilers, when she has a demonstrable history of poor poultry husbandry, is just another scam in the making.

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  15. Her present lifestyle is not sustainable, she has to continuously try to find ways to make more money. This will become more difficult the older she gets. When her book deals dry up, when her scams fail, she is facing a future of being penniless. But instead of facing the facts, she and her fans try to make someone else be the villain.

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    1. I have to laugh when one of her Amen Charlies jumps on here and accuses us of being jealous. I can't think of a lifestyle that I would find more daunting, demoralizing and depressing than the one Jenna's cobbled together for herself. And you're right, if it is as it seems - robbing Peter to pay Paul, constant frivolous purchases of silly and strange 'wants' (like a 36 cup coffee pot) over needs like brake lines or tires or the mortgage - it cannot continue indefinitely unless she's getting regular infusions of cash from her family to keep the whole thing afloat from one month to the next. Ugh. Who in their right mind would aspire to live that?

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  16. I agree, Redhorse. What she's doing will not keep her solvent, and it will become more and more difficult to make ends meet as she ages. She's lucky that she hasn't yet had a major (or even minor) health crisis, which can ruin the financial future of anyone without insurance. It's very sad to see someone make these choices. One of my childhood friends did something similar, and I see a great deal of this behavior in my work as well. I know people who are independently wealthy, some through their own earnings and some due to family trust funds. They can afford to live without regular employment and employee benefits, such as health care. Most of us are not in that position, and from what she says, she isn't, either. It's not a question of being brave or being fearful, but of the cold realities of survival. With all of the budget cuts at the federal and state levels of government, the social safety net that protected the last two generations is eroding, too. If I were here, I'd get a part or full time job in my field to keep my skills current, maintain a steady income stream and buy health insurance (which she has said she cannot currently afford). I know that she prefers to imagine herself as a 17th century inhabitant of the highlands of Scotland, but people in the British isles in that era lived to only about 35 years of age (see Robert Bucholz, "Early Modern England 1485-1714"). No matter what she says, I doubt that she wants to die that young.

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  17. That should have read, "If I were her" not "here".

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  18. I'm struck by how few comments her blog posts get these days. Back when I was faithfully reading it (I quit when she announced she was getting Merlin, because at that point - for me anyway - the jig was up), just about everything she wrote would have 30, 40, 50 or more comments within hours, and many would get more than 100. Now, a dozen comments is a lot, and many get zero or 1. So, based on her blog, she certainly seems to have lost most of her old regulars. Have they all moved to her secret club(s) on FB? FB has drastically cut "reach" in recent years, so how many of her fans are even seeing her stuff there? Where are these cash-flush "Amen Charlies" that are funding her lifestyle coming from now?

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    1. I think most people get wise to her tricks, eventually, and move on (or come here, on occasion). Plus, which her deleting anything with a hint of criticism, there isn't the drama to draw others in. It would be nice to think she'll eventually run out of people to scam, but, as P.T. Barnum said, "There's a sucker born every minute."

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  19. Any Birchthorn news? It seems like that is her Golden Goose, she can reprise it a couple of times and 15K a year from wannabee farmer hipsters living in Brooklyn can pad her hay cocoon mighty fine. But crap, what about retirement, any chance she has anything saved for the rainy day. It all could end with one broken leg caused by Italics throwing her off a Merlin video, or Maude running for her cameo on the next vlog causing Jenna to slip on turkey dookie. I'm sorry but this isn't funny.

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    1. Maude is dead. No vet care or emergency euthanization...suffered for days if I recall correctly.

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    2. She has been posting things on Facebook about Birchthorn...how proud she is of herself, etc. But ONLY after we started questioning on here if she was even writing Birchthron at all anymore. That cracks me up. I think we control blog/facebook content more than we realize. If it keeps her in line, I'm happy to stay on her case. We don't need a replay of the Wool CSA/Webinar/Pork Shares catastrophes.

      -H

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  20. There are many things that have bothered me about her and I dont think she is necessarily as evil as sometimes made out. I just think she is living a dream and not a reality. Many farmers get second jobs in winter to help pay the bills and she wont even consider it because its not authentic? Number one can she really even call herself a farmer? What on earth does she produce a few pigs a year? Sorry I think that falls under homesteading and not farming. Until recently I gave her money each month to fund the blog as I used to find it interesting and somewhat informative but over the past few years it just swings wildly between self congratulation on her wonderful life and panic about being out of money. And then she says oh be a member of the clan and get more personal content do you know how many posts she has made? Freaking 50 in over a year? Thats not content its bullshit. The most I think was about 9 a month and most months its one. I just thankful I stopped falling for the bull. Get a freaking job or figure out how to actually produce something. Homesteading i think has reached its zenith of being ultra hip so she better think of something new pretty damn quick.

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