Truck loans now? The most valuable thing I could loan Jenna is some advice. Get a job like a self respecting member of society and buy your own stuff. Your only product now is greed and deceit. Oh, and entertainment for decent people watching your insanity. Grow up! Get a real job! Stop scamming people!
Took screen shots of her begging and her NASTY response to Ginger. Will forward to Storey and all of her advertisers. Jenna, how do you think they'll like ya now?!
Let's add new glasses, new hair cut and color (per one of her own comments), new shirt, make-up, horse cart and night out at a bar to the list of things JW has wasted money on lately after crying about trying to keep the lights on.
Why would anyone fund a loan for someone who is not even willing to invest any of her own money in the item she is purchasing? She has nothing to lose! There is no security interest in the truck for any of the lenders or Kiva. There is NO incentive for JW to pay the loan back as there is nothing KIVA can or will do to recover the lenders' funds and nothing the lender can do either. JW borrowed MORE than the asking price of the vehicle, has not invested any of her own money in the truck and is probably laughing all the way to the bank (which is probably why she went out drinking last night). Unfreakingbelievable!
From Kiva's FAQs: "Lending money on Kiva Zip can be risky. You should only loan money on Kiva Zip that you can afford to lose, because there is no guarantee that you will get it back. Below is an outline of potential risks on Kiva Zip:
Default Risk: If a borrower defaults on a loan, the lender loses his/her entire investment. There are many reasons why a loan might not be paid back, ranging from poor execution of a business plan, to the borrower experiencing a catastrophic accident, to fraud on the part of the borrower or the trustee.
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"Why is the paying back status of loans obscured once they are fully funded?
Currently, we do not display the paying back status of loans on the Kiva Zip website after they are fully funded unless you are a lender to that loan. We do this to protect borrower’s privacy and to avoid publicly shaming those who might become delinquent."
JENNA DESERVES TO BE PUBLICLY SHAMED FOR ALL OF HER SCAMS!!! smh
Scam Princess sez: "It's the same as any loan given from any bank but instead of loaning from a bank I am loaning from this community."
No, it isn't.
--Jenna has no risk. There is no collateral, she holds the title to the truck, the truck can never be repo'd should/when she default(s) on it. --Jenna doesn't pay any interest, the lenders receive no interest. --The lenders have all the risk and no recourse if she fails to pay.
The day after she has her hand out looking for help to get some sad jalopy she's posting numerous selfies modeling eyewear. We're not talking bargain bin frames, here. Price tag: $95-295.
Or Zenni Optical? My daughter has been ordering stylish glasses with lenses for years from them. My son just ordered some now, too, and they cost him $35. All told. Frames and lenses, and they fit and look great!
First there was outright begging. Then there was the posting of her wishlist on Facebook. Then 'selling' a rusted license plate or old wool hat to generate sympathy and donations.
Now she has hit on the Mother Lode. Crowdfunding loans! Pure genius. Get a lot of people to donate $25 for a loan. Of course they will never get a penny back. But they won't pursue the matter and she knows it.
I am beginning to believe HotFlashHomestead was right. This train may never wreck. Jenna will find new ways to wring money out of people and as former fans vacate her blog, a fresh new batch of suckers will replace them.
Ha, ha. Oldest trick in the book. Ask for a 'loan', knowing full well it will become a gift.
I am ashamed to say I used this on my parents when I was young and foolish. Got in way over my head in my twenties. I asked for 'loans' from my parents who were so soft hearted, I knew they would never ask for the money back.
I came to my senses in my 30's and worked hard to pay off my debts. I would never take a dime from anyone else again.
It's time for Jenna to grow up and stop mooching off others.
Does anyone think that JW has an alcohol problem? She reminds me of someone I know who was well educated and likeable, but kept getting 'laid off' from jobs. It got to the point where she only worked part time jobs because she said he couldn't find full time work. But she also wasn't looking because she didn't like the 'corporate rat race'. She never made much part time, so was always mooching off others.
It took awhile to realize she was a heavy drinker. When you work 9-5 in a cubie, you can't drink. But if you are self employed, working from home, you can drink as much as you like.
JW doesn't want to work in an office in front of a computer, yet she admits she spends most of her time in front of a computer. I wonder if the freedom to drink is an issue. She sure brings up drinking a lot.
Dunno, but she's definitely got a Talking About Alcohol problem. It's like everyday: "toot toot! I'm drinking folks!" I mean, you can buy beer in Rite-Aid when you get some Immodium and a birthday card for you mother-in-law so she can't be that special, right? We get it, Jenna, you're a big girl now, you can have fermented beverages. It's not like it hasn't been over a decade since you were of legal age or anything.
It makes me sick to see all of the people that flock to support Jenna financially. There are so many people out there with serious hardship that could use some help, but probably wouldn't accept it. First and foremost I think of families disrupted by an injured or killed service member. Why should Jenna get a free ride when the people who are fighting to preserve her right to be a self-centered, selfish, lazy no account are struggling? Jenna, you are able bodied, have shown, to some extent, the ability to hold down a white collar job that would easily support your fantasy farm, without the need to feed off the sympathy of poodles. How can you look yourself in the face in the morning? Or have you removed all mirrors from Poodleville? Oh, that's what I call your fantasy farm now. You are a Poodle at heart, and I think you know it. Only someone completely devoid of a conscience would behave the way you do.
Right, on the topic of "Many people out there with serious hardship that could use some help, but probably wouldn't accept it," if you look up @startafarm on Instagram (no blog) the woman who posts does some amazing things. She's living on a farm that presumably produces a huge (at least comparatively, she has said she doesn't feel they produce a tremendous amount of food but it looks like a lot to me) amount of wholesome, healthy, naturally-produced food from animals and fruits/veggies, in drought-stricken California nonetheless! I think she said they're not selling yet but hoping to soon-ish. Her animals look healthy, she's raising three kids I think, and the main thing is, she did a kickstarter or gofundme for donations to build a cabin to bolster their farm and many people donated but they didn't hit their goal.
You know what she did? Returned the money, because she felt she hadn't earned it and it was the right thing to do. Many people seemed disappointed they couldn't support her farm but understood her decision.
I was blown away by that and very impressed - a hard choice. I'm not sure what's right or not but if someone is producing what they say they will without obscuring the truth, I feel the donators have fair notice of what they are donating to. Not so in the case of CAF.
I'm lol-ing so hard!!!! Jenna's response to her critics!
Jenna doth protest way, waaaayyy too much. She sounds like a 58 year old former alcoholic, multiple divorcee who's been through twenty years of therapy with a cheap shrink!!
"I like me, a lot. And I think that is the root of people's anger with me. They don't like that I like me."
If she were just a garden variety asshole she wouldn't be amassing so many detractors--- the world's full of them-- this asshole has victims, two-legged and four.
She does like herself. That's one thing she has going for her, for sure. These pathetic people who believe she's a farmer, well, let's just say they're a match. Meanwhile, since many of you feel a little like friends from having shared our experiences here... please, if you'd care to, send up a little prayer for a local young teenager who just passed away unexpectedly. His family works hard, and I hope they're not fretting about how to get together final expense money right now. It just makes a 33 yr old begging for a new truck more crass. I know we don't usually share this sort of thing here, but it's so tragic and sad.
Jenna's begging isn't just crass, it's immoral-- there's a finite amount of money people are willing/able to give to charity, any money she's successfully diverts her way is taking away from worthy causes.
Here's the Mayo Clinic description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568
Interesting. But as I understand it, a narcissistic sociopath is a combo diagnosis of Npd and anti-social personality disorder. I could be totally wrong, though. I'm not a doctor by any means.
Her kilts are from The Celtic Croft???!!!!!! Those kilts are HUNDREDS of dollars each. I think they range from $95 to $500 on that site. Her followers are so stupid.
IF JW pays back the Kiva loan - - and its a big IF, but IF she does, then I would be proud of her. Asking for, getting, using and paying back Kiva loans MIGHT be the first sustainable thing she has ever done. Please pay these people back, Jenna. Shut us up in all our griping about how we don't think you will pay people back. For the $100 I lost from you, please pay these people back.
She's blowing up my feed almost daily with new pics of herself from every angle. The desired compliments roll in and she laps it up. One grey hair, who bears a noticeable resemblance to Boss Hog, is routinely slobbering all over her in the comments "Sexy knees though!!" ????? She has all the sex appeal of a Russian nesting doll. It's time for her to stop baiting her readers like a poodle in heat, turn off the computer and go meet some people out in the real world.
It seems a bit like a case of "I did it, so it's OK for Jenna to do it," as far as the loan, kickstarters, etc. What Jon doesn't seem to get is that she DOES beg, she does appear desperate at times, and although it's a loan she will NOT pay it back (something he says she will do). Good luck with that. I wonder if he'll write a retraction after no one gets paid.
Katz is all about Katz. He knows Jenna only when she provides fodder for his convoluted ramblings. He wrote a thinly veiled attack on her mid-winter but now he's championing her spunk and determination. Whatever, it has nothing to do with her-- he's just looking for another angle to demonize blog readers who dare to write anything that's remotely critical or contraditory because HE doesn't like it. And he's not paying terrible close attention to her because he's still hoping she gets her truck-- no shit, Jon, she funded it less than 24 hours after posting it.
Jon and Jenna need to realize that if you're going to live you life with your hand out you're going to be scrutinized by those that might give you money.
It isn't honest to rally support from lenders by saying "help this farm get roadworthy again" with the foreboding tone that she will be without safe transportation when behind the scenes she's been having a spending spree on total nonessentials. The new puppy alone is worth half this old beater she's getting. This isn't a snapshot of the sharing economy at work, it's the disgusting manipulations of career con artist.
The sharing economy, give me an effin break! Both of them are narcissistic amoral intellectuals from suburbia coming into a rural community and pretending that it is some sort of therapy as they trounce the standards of the community - hard work, self reliance, and relationships built on trust and mutual care for those less fortunate. This bubble will pop at some point and basically they are both giving 'charity" a really bad name by flipping charitable giving into some self-centered solipsistic nightmare of greed!!!!
Whoa, whoa, whoa --- Katz may well be the closest thing to an intellectual Washington County can proffer up but the only place Jenna would be considered erudite is a truck pull.
Career con artist- EXACTLY. CAF? Con Artist Farm. Or, Confined Animal Feedlot.. either way, she has missed the mark so badly, it's pitiful. I notice she is now putting on make up. She says she reads about these things, but it appears the make up is caked on. She is ugly, and by that I mean her soul. She never ever ever looks endearing, she looks evil to me. Imagine being one of her animals staring up at her as they starve to death, pleading for help before the life drains out of their body. She is a pox.
What particularly appalls me about this is that not only is she fleecing yet another round of people, but she's giving Kiva loans a bad name.The fact that she managed to get approved puts a taint on every other business out there who uses Kiva for legitimate microloans to help them be successful.
The only consolation is that when she doesn't pay this loan back, she won't be able to use Kiva again.
IF one were to write to Kiva with their concerns they MIGHT receive an email back that looks like this:
Thanks so much for your email and reaching out to us about Jenna Woginrich. I've passed your message along to our team who reviews and approves borrowers to fundraise on the Kiva Zip platform. They can follow up directly on these claims and make a decision whether or not to allow her to continue to fundraise on Kiva Zip.
Really appreciate you contacting us about this!
Best wishes, Laura Piper Senior Manager, Community
WTF, the people of this blog need to do something! JW has created her "brand" and her "following" and they are insane and manipulating the goodness of others, it makes me sick to see her bragging about her using microloans that were intended for real women starting businesses perverted for her second truck for gas guzzling and polluting in the fresh air of Washington county! Katz, get involved, this is your neighbor who is dragging blogging into the cess pool of avarice and ponzi. It is unbearable, and yes you can proudly call me GINGER
The real GINGER??!! I mean, we are all Ginger here (if you know what I mean), but we were hoping for the real Ginger to find her way here!!! What CAN we do?? As long as JW has a following (people who all don't care about giving $25 they will never see again), then she can't be stopped. The normal people end up here, but she still retains enough people to fund her life. A class action suit? I don't know what to do. I will say from my experience at a workshop that JW is very socially awkward and all the "regulars" at those workshops are also socially awkward. They are all the kind of people who do better with online friends than real world friends. (not that there is anything wrong with that) They all seem to appreciate real world people that like them. The problem is that these people don't seem to see that JW is USING THEM for money while pretending to be friends. Its all really sad. If she paid people back or followed through with what she claims she will do and treated her animals better, none of us would be complaining.
Anon 11:19, that's an interesting observation you made about Jenna pretending to be friends with people, I also got that vibe from watching her interact online. Her friendships seem very lopsided--- rather than a relationship involving equals, Jenna is worshipped and admired and fawned over like she's royalty. I wouldn't put it past her to prey on people that are a little lonely or what you might call misfits.
No I am not the real GINGER, the poor sacrificial anonymous poster, but guess what Callous Ass Farm-not, I will not shut the F up. I will post on your FB and your blog and the Katz' too. I will fart in your bedroom and tell you and all your zombie wannabee's who can't bother to google the truth about you the TRUTH. You live on the internet, you get slapped on the internet, and we should write the effin Eagle about you too!
A couple days ago someone told Jenna her glasses brought out her "inner Aniston". Today she tweeted: Happy Birthday @AnnaKendrick47 One of the 3 pieces of the trident of Earthly Perfection. Other 2: Jennifer Aniston and a sentient werewolf.
If she was at all interested in Jennifer Aniston we'd have heard about it by now.....six times a day.
Twitter is where she supposedly reveals the R-rated Jenna.....because her mom doesn't read it........??? Standby for risque profundities like this: Music and Farming is it. The rest is just things keeping you from playing/listening and growing/eating. Also, sex.
And she seems to be tweeting at low-level celebs, comedians and internet personalities.....Anna Kendrick, Dan Harmon, Pete Holmes, and a bunch of others. It's like she's in high school, trying to get noticed by the cool kids.
that is a pretty common strategy to build a Twjtter following for marketing. She's ben deliberate about making her FB interactive with all of the questions and lists. My guess is that it's something a current published is requiring for a new book or prep for a new publisher.
Hmmm, I didn't know that, but interesting. How does tweeting at these people build her following? Does it get the attention of Anna Kendrick's followers and then they follow Jenna?
I'm not very Twitter or marketing savvy (obviously).
Yeah it can. I'm no expert, but have run a development dept for a nonprofit that had marketing under me and have listened to a lot of entrepreneurish podcasts now that I'm on my own and this is a common strategy. You follow and tweet at people who have large followings or are in an area of interest for you. (i.e. most of who was tagged in that silly series of pics with the record player and the farm animals were publications she's pitching to like Modern Farm). Then some of them or their followers will follow you. Because they are also trying to build followers and/or are interested in what you put out there. She needs to show reach and audience. Same with promoting the Google channel to get the #'s up.
There's nothing wrong with her strategy. Obviously, I read here because I have a problem with her content and methods. Sometimes I'd bet that I produce more of value and utilize as many "farming" skills from my 50x90 inner city lot that CAF actually does in a year while working full time in another separate business.
On a podcast I listened to on a walk this a.m., a speaker talked about his goal in his online presence being not to scale up his "conversion rates" (or clicks to income), but to scale up his trust level among his followers. JW came to mind - she is cranking through masses because she hasn't established any real trust. (because she isn't trustworthy)
Con Artist Farm?! That's great. Why didn't I think of that. It's exactly what CAF has turned into.
And what's with all the makeup now? I have no problem with her wearing makeup, but isn't it very poodle of her? I thought she was a werewolf, or something like that, and otherkins were poodles. I mean, she writes about how dirty and stinky she is, how she rarely showers, so why pile on the makeup? This gal is full of contradictions.
From Psychology Today - "...pathologically narcissistic. They all have or had an over-abundant belief that they were special and that they had to be revered. They overvalued themselves and devalued those around them, they were intolerant of criticism, and above all they did not like being questioned or challenged. And yet, in spite of these less than charming traits, they had no trouble attracting those who were willing to overlook these features."
More traits:
Has a grandiose idea of who he is and what he can achieve.
Is superficially charming.
Requires excessive admiration from followers and outsiders.
Has a sense of entitlement - expecting to be treated special at all times.
Is exploitative of others by asking for their money
Has “magical” answers or solutions to problems.
Anyone who criticizes or questions him is an “enemy.”
The word “I” dominates his conversations. He is oblivious to how often he references himself
I am very surprised at Jon Katz, although maybe I shouldn't be. For years, he wrote that he wouldn't take donations. That he was responsible for funding his own life. I respected him for that.
But that was when he was at the top of his game and made good money on royalties. Now that he has lost it all, he's changed his tune. Remember the kickstarter project for his new camera and Maria's new sewing machine? He never would have done that years ago.
Now he is not only helping Jenna get her (cough, cough) loan, he admires her for it. Sharing economy, my foot. It is thinly disguised begging. Sharing means reciprocating. I doubt we'll ever see that.
What ever happened to his admonition not to listen to the Amen Charlies and Go Girls? Why did he call out Ginger on his blog? She was speaking the TRUTH! She was the only one to have the guts to say what we are all thinking here. The only one not to be an Amen Charlie and he disses her for it?
I am very disappointed in him. Not only that, I think he is grooming his followers for what is to come - a 'loan' for him.
The problem with people like JW and JK is that they don't want the corporate world, but they want all the benefits and financial security that goes with it.
It was easy for Jon Katz for a long time. He wrote that he made a fortune and was a big shot. Now that royalties have shrunk he is feeling the pinch.
So to them the 'sharing economy' means "you go to work and share the wealth with me".
I just cancelled my subscription to the Bedlam Farm blog. I read all of Jon's books but got them from the library, so never paid for them. Since I enjoyed his blog for a long time, I felt it was only fair to part with $3/month to compensate him for his time.
But since I no longer agree with him, I'm free to leave. Especially after what he wrote about Ginger.
Bye, Jon. It was fun. But you'll have to find someone else who will share the economy with you.
He's been bullying people for a very long time-just Google his slashdot days. His blog has become repetitive, never edited and completely self serving.
I looked up the characteristics of a cult follower. Among the many common traits are someone who feels like an outsider and is looking to 'belong'. They are only too happy to turn over money to their 'leader'.
When someone criticizes JW, she calls them a miserable person, unhappy with their own life. I'm beginning to think that some of her followers may have those traits and are hoping some of JW's 'magic' will rub off on them.
As far as I can tell, this group seems to have a common thread. Hardworking people who pay their own way in life and can see through the BS.
I quit Katz a few weeks ago when he spent a thousand words filleting a fan who had written to him. He was frustrated that she had second-guessed a decision he had made about his animals, and he really let her have it. It was a savage and personal takedown. It was only a matter of time until Jenna felt bold enough to follow suit, and sure enough she did. They want fans to give them money and keep their mouths shut, because they're the ones with something interesting to say in the relationship, right? Plenty of talented writers whose work I enjoy are probably top notch assholes. But I enjoy their fiction writing, not the aggressive vitriol that spews from their crazy real lives. Katz and Jenna sell writing about their lives, and then when someone calls them out on the insanity of those lives, they say how dare you, you have no idea what my life is really like. Well look, then that just makes you a shitty or dishonest non-fiction writer. Makes me angry when they kick around readers for sport, when all the readers have done is question the quality of the product they're peddling. Don't sell your life story, monetize the minutiae of your daily existence, and then cry foul when people say the story isn't good. This is some hostile and crappy non-fiction they're selling, and I'm glad I'm done buying it.
I defriended her after the Ginger post. However thin the "friend" distinction is on Facebook, I didn't want any part of it.
I'm not proud of how upset I got every time she showed up in my feed. I enjoyed a couple of her early books, I was a fan! But her online presence reveals bad animal management, bad financial decision-making (this would be OK if she weren't encouraging others to follow the path with a devil may care attitude), and no evidence of any growth as a farmer/homesteader.
I wanted to watch her turn it all around, but she insists that this is the life she wants to live. I can't support that, so I'm voting with my feet -- no more clicks or views from me. I'll come back here to see how Meredith and her pigs and her sweet tree guy are doing, though. That's a story worth following.
Bravo indeed! And hasn't Katz written over and over about how much trouble he got into when he listened only to the Amen Charlies? How he dumped them because they only told him what he wanted to hear and cheered him on even though he was spiraling into madness?
And isn't he doing the same thing now? He needs to take his own advice.
That's what Katz wants you to believe. There were no Amen Charlies. He dumped people when they tried to tell him the truth of what he was doing. He ended up dumping everyone he knew because they got sick of the windbag and told him so.
He is a pompous ass, who spends all freaking day long talking about himself. Even the causes he takes up are muses for him, so that he can gain more readers. He does not care one bit about anything but himself. He and Jenna ought to shack up. Share one username- J&J's Blow hard blog.
I don't comment on Jenna blog as I was "banned" for calling her out years and years ago. Glad Gingers commented squeezed through.
I commented on Katz's Facebook on the post about his blog about Jenna. After which he friended me on fb which is odd. Waiting for the you're a meanie fb message.
Katz isn't content to insult just his own readers (his bread and butter) but has to cross over and comment on Ginger, the commenter from Jenna's blog whose innocuous comment he quotes and then lumps with the meanies who in his words "punish honesty with cruelty and judgment"!! Haha- really, guys? Ginger was just being honest herself. Jenna and Jon, take some chill pills and get off your sanctimonious high horses. It would be funny if you weren't spewing the very vitriol you accuse their readers of. You're both dependent on the Internet for your livelihood. Katz puts himself above Jenna, implying his "ways of living with animals" are superior to his, and saying her farm isn't sustainable, and he only crowd funds for his work, not his "need". What a joke.
ie "your readers" (not "their") and "hers"(not "his" ways of living...) I have to correct my writing but Katz's blog is the sloppiest, most mistake-ridden blog I've come across. He wants to be paid for his work as "a writer should be" but he puts out the most shoddy product. Not only does he have wrong spellings galore and lousy punctuation - he regularly uses commas as periods, for example - but he mixes up the names of people and animals and objects with the effect of completely distorting the meaning. His blog became too much effort to read and he apparently doesn't care. I doubt his mistakes have gone unremarked on. I looked forward to reading his "official" statement on the carriage horse issue and was astounded that a professional writer would put that out a piece so in need of proof-reading and editing. And this is a critical issue to him. I would never pay for writing so clumsy and unpolished. It's not worth fighting through, even if he had the most sparkling, illuminating things to say. His content gets lost in poor execution.
I think he's actually said he doesn't care about editing, it's not his job [which is rather stupid if you are a writer]-and I find it sloppy too,and also arrogant "I am the great and powerful Oz, er KAtz ,and I don't have to spell or puncuate". I think he considers himself the new superhero for the ordinary folk, because when Katz wags his finger and opens his mouth, he is starting to really believe he can raise money of any amount, for anything, just because he has given it his gold Katz post. But I've seen him use it against people too, but in a very subliminal way, and I think he did that with the jenna truck post last week- I might be the only one, but I took the post to be belittling to her, but clothed in obvious [if you know Katz's history] disdain and judgment. What if that were turned around, and she wrote about him that way for , say buying a new camera on Kickstarter and saying, "You know, it's not my life, but spending money got him in trouble before, i just hope my friend Jon watches out"-he'd be livid and would put on a show about it. He also posted it after it was funded, pretending he didn't know it was funded. I will give JW credit for not biting at it, even when someone on her FB page asked if she had seen it. That was probably the first professional think I've heard her say online! He is also so inconsistant with his fact, or statements. But my favorite a woman made a comment that Blue Star Equiculture [his latest muse] does not have a hyphen in it, and he was putting a hyphen in the name. He insisted to her it did. She siad, politely, but look it up. He commented again in a snarky way. Well, you don't have to be a genius to go tot their website?! SO very quietly, about a day or two later, without his usual in your face fan the flames to get people commenting, he quit using the hyphen. It just cracked me up. He just can never be wrong! And if I have t hear one more time, "I used to be driven around in limos..." gag.
Crossing over onto another's blog, uninvited, and insulting someone there that he had no beef with whatsoever. That was between JW and the poster. Maybe he's scared off all controversial posters on his blog, and has to go "hunting."
Well, Jon, I have a little advice for you. Remember the grade school acronym, MYOB? (Mind Your Own Beeswax). I have one for you: MYOB Mind Your Own Blog!
Look, I'm no grammar snob but if he can't take the time to give his posts a read through for coherence, at the very least, why should I waste my time trying to decipher it?
This is Jenna's response to someone who described their well-built chicken housing:
Jenna Woginrich I agree 100% this is better, but it will cost a lot more to build that way than to buy 30% extra chickens.... loss is expected with this set up, so I buy in at the beginning - but nights like this mean full watch Like · 28 mins
Forgot to say-- 12 chickens dead today. How many must die before she builds a predator proof chicken coop? Or just stop raising chickens (please!)............?
Many many more! Cause a stake-out and shoot-out at the Con Artist Corral is so much more dramatic than safer housing for her chickens. And this way both prey and predator will die. Just keep enough livestock around to play records with and have as wallpaper for her selfies. Did you see vlog 51? The only new things goin' on at Jenna's play is a proud play by play of how strangers bought her a truck (we know Jenna, we know) and a montage of previously posted pics of her wasting time dancing with herself, and in pumps even! (Every farmer needs special shoes and a new colorful kilt to dance in the barnyard in) Forget wood, hay, truck repairs or keeping those photo- op ready animals safe. That's not fun! Oh and the root canal! --so not fun. This is the intermission before the next crisis. But shhh! don't disturb her play or she will have some very nasty things to say.
vlog 51? You mean the one where Jenna channeled Bob Barker showcasing her new old truck like she was on The Price Is Right?
If it's not raccoons, it's foxes and now even Plott hounds.....you can't wipe out every predator, Jenna, but you can build a safer chicken coop or get an LGD.
"Your food doesn't come from the grocery store. It doesn't come from metal carts. It comes from shit, blood, death, sacrifice, and constant effort from people who still can't help but be close to the ground they'll be buried in. Agriculture is all culture. If you care about anything else, anything at all, it's because someone else is out there growing your food. Be grateful. Wake up."
Because she hasn't had enough compliments today she reminded her readers it was time to pucker up:
Jenna Woginrich 28 mins · So here is a worthy boast. Since June 28th I am down 20 pounds, thanks to quitting carbs and sugar and running a lot. Sneakers and keto get a gal pretty far.
It wasn't that long ago she had lost 20 lbs total, now it's 20 pounds since June 28 alone.
And she's also shrinking vertically, it seems. She has bragged about being 5'3" so many times I know this without looking.
Jenna Woginrich My goal is to weigh 165 pounds at 5'2" and that is still 10 pounds off. I know that sounds heavy but I am built as dense as a dying sun
Jon Katz skewered me publically on his blog years ago based on a private email I sent. I wasn't commenting on his life at all. I was talking about the difference between anxiety and fear based on the lack of a stable income although doing what you want in life versus fear and anxiety not doing what you want in life, but getting a stable paycheck. I was stunned that he treated me so poorly in publically for raising such a "deep" question. Does anyone know why Maria puts up with it? She seems like a decent person???!! If my husband slammed people like that I would be embarrassed and disappointed in his hubris.
Anon 11:26 - You raised a very good question. Maybe he skewered you because it touched a nerve. Yes, it's all well and good to talk about leaving the corporate life, but then the question remains, how do you support yourself?
If you're lucky, like Katz was for a long time, you can write and your books will sell. Or be made into a movie. If he was smart, he would have invested the money into something that would have produced an income stream when the writing well ran dry.
However, he admits he blew the money. I'm sorry he did that, but no one should feel that they owe him a living.
He is also bombastic about not caring about IRA's and pensions, but he is terrified that he doesn't have either.
Varmint freeloader, the raccoon did more work than she did, gods help the man gotta push Gibson out of the bed - damn this crap is crazy, and Katzy, he's a piece of work, maybe there's some weirdness in this area, aliens landing in the fields etc
Tin cups and repos coming, We're finally on our own? This summer I hear the drumming, Chickens dead in Washington co.
Gotta get down to it Raccoons are cutting us down Should have been done long ago. What if you knew my farm And found birds dead on the ground How can you run when you know?
Please send more $$ to CAF, the Ginger fund - thanks y'all
She definitely has her priorities upside down if she'll spend $1000+ on a dog but not spend that amount to fix a lot of her facility problems. And the fact that she continually hides behind "well that's just farming" bullshit is just bullshit.
No farmer I know willingly goes into a livestock venture with the resolution that they'll lose a good portion of their stock. That's just asinine.
I see one poster suggested that hardware cloth instead of chicken wire worked well for them to keep out raccoons. But, no, JW buys a kilt for the same amount it would take to fortify her tractors. I have never lost a single bird (duck or chicken) to predators. A bit of luck, as they free range on my fenced acre during the day, but also vigilance and a predator-proof coop.
Seriously - a dozen chicks and she is so light hearted about it. I guess there is little economic impact and then there's the new used truck that readers bought her. But what really bothers me is not the economics of it but the immoral husbandry - how can you set up chickens to die by being pulled slowly through chicken wire?
And then, you know, just say whatever it's farming. The first time I raised chickens I lost 20 birds in one night to opossums and raccoons, but I never lost another chicken because I predator-proofed their coops. The reader recommending hardware cloth is correct, but I am guessing there is another toy more worthwhile and hey, it was only 25 bucks worth of chicken. She'll never do it because she stated upfront she was prepared to lose chicken lives.
I'm a committed carnivore but I believe in humane slaughter and the sociopathic carelessness and indifference of her attitude bothers me more than I can say.
The greatest irony of this is that for years she was a vegetarian because she was appalled at the way factory farms treated their animals. Yet she thinks those chicks somehow had a much better life and death and is OK with planning for, and even anticipating that kind of violent death in her operation so she can eat and sell the remaining chicken meat. I would buy factory-farmed chicken before I bought hers. Her justifications are truly scary sometimes.
It is so foolish the way she talks about the money aspect of livestock losses. When a chick dies, you don't just lose the money you spent on buying the day-old chick. You lose that, plus the money you spent on feed and supplies for that chick, plus the real kicker: the income you could have realized off that chick once it grew up and became a saleable product. She can't get back the weeks the chick spent in her sorry enclosure -- the opportunity to make money off that effort and space is forever gone, leaving a big empty hole where she should have a chicken in her freezer or a dollar in her pocket. It's expensive to lose livestock because it wastes finite time and space.
She talks a lot about how short life is, how you shouldn't waste a single minute of it, etc. I can think of few things more wasteful to do on a farm than expend feed and time and energy on inadequately housed livestock. Unless of course she's just enjoying the act of farm work -- watch me do all these chores, golly isn't farming hard and awesome! -- but a successful outcome doesn't matter. In that case, I wish she would just play with inanimate objects, go tend a failing garden of non-sentient squashes. Wasting chicken lives is a sorry way to fail at food production.
Gibson's cut his paw and needed "surgery" and the bill will be high. Jenna is running a sale on logos to pay for it, the pitch is followed by this reminder "It's the 3-paw special today, folks.".
When you try to sell logos to the same group of people on your friends list repeatedly (for months? years?) it is known as begging. She knows only some people will need a logo so this way she begs and saves face.
Also, why wait for a vet emergency to drum up work? Does she only work when the checkbook is empty?
Someone suggested she look into pet insurance, her response:
Jenna Woginrich Darling, I don't even have health insurance smile emoticon
She mentioned a logo sale on Facebook just yesterday and every week or 2 it seems. I remember in Spring, she was having a desperation sale the last one for a long while- so she said. That didn't last long. What do you call a sale that is ongoing? That's really false advertising. Same with workshops. If she has to keep discounting her products, something ain't working. The crises won't stop, Jenna, no matter how dreamy you tell yourself your life is. What's your plan for the next and the next, because they will happen. More logo sales? Kiva loans on top of Kiva loans? If Gibson could talk (and Merlin, and Maude and all the dead chickens), what would they say? You can't take care of your "best dog in the world" never mind yourself because that's your choice, but your animals deserve better.
I believe, based on things she has said online and on FB, that she is just fine financially. But she does use situations like Gibson's paw, her root canal, etc. to enhance and pad her bottom line by soliciting donations based on a perceived need when a "crisis" happens. People are more likely to donate to someone who says they are about to go under and are in dire straits than someone who says "all is well but send some money anyway." It's the same with the wool hat getting put up for sale. If people think she's parting with her last near-and-dear objects, they will tell her to keep the hat and just send her some money. It's really quite well thought out from a marketing standpoint, although dishonest as all get-out.
...isn't that just part of farming...chickens die, lambs get run to death, dogs get hurt. Just slough it off and move on, right? Farming is farming and when you have livestock you also have deadstock..it's just part of farm life.
Double standard.
I'm being sarcastic here, just in case y'all were puzzled and thought I was an unfeeling nut case.
Yes, it is now illegal to be without health insurance. The thing is, a lot of people like JW go without, then pay the fine at the end of the year via their tax return. I don't believe the fine is too much right now, but I did read some time ago that it was to raise every year for a few years to phase out people who refused coverage and just wanted to pay the fine.
Yeah - actually not.a.good.policy if you're broke and your readers are ALL you have. Condescension is JW'S default.mode when they speak truth or.suggest caution or preparation or fiscal.sense. Those concepts are foreign in Jenna's chosen lifestyle and they will not be tolerated. Those commenters will be put in their place.one way or another.
I'm not an animal lover, but if she lost chickens again, in a completely preventable way, this has to equal Animal Cruelty. Enough of this already. And there shouldn't be lots of shit, blood etc., to raise food, why is she lathering in it? I can't imagine setting up animals for such a cruel death! Disturbing! Cold Antler Farm BlogSpot Jenna Woginrich Veryork scrappy
The ever present smirk pretty much gives her away as the bastard child of Dick Cheney.
ReplyDeleteJenna's true colors shining through. Jenna "desk job" Poodle. Ha!
ReplyDeleteTruck loans now? The most valuable thing I could loan Jenna is some advice. Get a job like a self respecting member of society and buy your own stuff. Your only product now is greed and deceit. Oh, and entertainment for decent people watching your insanity. Grow up! Get a real job! Stop scamming people!
ReplyDeleteTook screen shots of her begging and her NASTY response to Ginger. Will forward to Storey and all of her advertisers. Jenna, how do you think they'll like ya now?!
ReplyDeleteShe's also published by Roost Books.
Deletehttp://www.roostbooks.com/
Let's add new glasses, new hair cut and color (per one of her own comments), new shirt, make-up, horse cart and night out at a bar to the list of things JW has wasted money on lately after crying about trying to keep the lights on.
ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone fund a loan for someone who is not even willing to invest any of her own money in the item she is purchasing? She has nothing to lose! There is no security interest in the truck for any of the lenders or Kiva. There is NO incentive for JW to pay the loan back as there is nothing KIVA can or will do to recover the lenders' funds and nothing the lender can do either. JW borrowed MORE than the asking price of the vehicle, has not invested any of her own money in the truck and is probably laughing all the way to the bank (which is probably why she went out drinking last night). Unfreakingbelievable!
ReplyDeleteFrom Kiva's FAQs:
"Lending money on Kiva Zip can be risky. You should only loan money on Kiva Zip that you can afford to lose, because there is no guarantee that you will get it back. Below is an outline of potential risks on Kiva Zip:
Default Risk: If a borrower defaults on a loan, the lender loses his/her entire investment. There are many reasons why a loan might not be paid back, ranging from poor execution of a business plan, to the borrower experiencing a catastrophic accident, to fraud on the part of the borrower or the trustee.
..."
"Why is the paying back status of loans obscured once they are fully funded?
Currently, we do not display the paying back status of loans on the Kiva Zip website after they are fully funded unless you are a lender to that loan. We do this to protect borrower’s privacy and to avoid publicly shaming those who might become delinquent."
JENNA DESERVES TO BE PUBLICLY SHAMED FOR ALL OF HER SCAMS!!! smh
"JW borrowed MORE than the asking price of the vehicle..."
DeleteWhat WAS the asking price of the truck? Please tell me you have a screen shot of the listing.
$1990 or best offer.
DeleteNo way to post a screen shot but the ad is still up on Craig's.
https://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/5151736503.html
Scam Princess sez: "It's the same as any loan given from any bank but instead of loaning from a bank I am loaning from this community."
DeleteNo, it isn't.
--Jenna has no risk. There is no collateral, she holds the title to the truck, the truck can never be repo'd should/when she default(s) on it.
--Jenna doesn't pay any interest, the lenders receive no interest.
--The lenders have all the risk and no recourse if she fails to pay.
Wonder if the Dodge was repo'd?
ReplyDeleteSo sick of the smirk. Dead on Anonymous August 7 @ 6:49pm.
ReplyDeleteExcellent question Anon 11:08.
ReplyDeleteThe day after she has her hand out looking for help to get some sad jalopy she's posting numerous selfies modeling eyewear. We're not talking bargain bin frames, here. Price tag: $95-295.
ReplyDeleteAnd she's getting two pairs.
She's ordering them from Warby Parker, who sells stylish glasses cheaply. They are $95 each pair of glasses. You can try 5 pairs on at home for free!
DeleteThat's nice. Here I thought she was dirt poor, just scraping by. Warby Parker? How about Goggles4U.com.
DeleteOr Zenni Optical? My daughter has been ordering stylish glasses with lenses for years from them. My son just ordered some now, too, and they cost him $35. All told. Frames and lenses, and they fit and look great!
Deletehttp://www.zennioptical.com/
How does Jenna beg? Let me count the ways.
ReplyDeleteFirst there was outright begging. Then there was the posting of her wishlist on Facebook. Then 'selling' a rusted license plate or old wool hat to generate sympathy and donations.
Now she has hit on the Mother Lode. Crowdfunding loans! Pure genius. Get a lot of people to donate $25 for a loan. Of course they will never get a penny back. But they won't pursue the matter and she knows it.
I am beginning to believe HotFlashHomestead was right. This train may never wreck. Jenna will find new ways to wring money out of people and as former fans vacate her blog, a fresh new batch of suckers will replace them.
Yup. Kind of depressing, but true, I think.
DeleteI am born every time!
DeleteHa, ha. Oldest trick in the book. Ask for a 'loan', knowing full well it will become a gift.
ReplyDeleteI am ashamed to say I used this on my parents when I was young and foolish. Got in way over my head in my twenties. I asked for 'loans' from my parents who were so soft hearted, I knew they would never ask for the money back.
I came to my senses in my 30's and worked hard to pay off my debts. I would never take a dime from anyone else again.
It's time for Jenna to grow up and stop mooching off others.
Does anyone think that JW has an alcohol problem? She reminds me of someone I know who was well educated and likeable, but kept getting 'laid off' from jobs. It got to the point where she only worked part time jobs because she said he couldn't find full time work. But she also wasn't looking because she didn't like the 'corporate rat race'. She never made much part time, so was always mooching off others.
ReplyDeleteIt took awhile to realize she was a heavy drinker. When you work 9-5 in a cubie, you can't drink. But if you are self employed, working from home, you can drink as much as you like.
JW doesn't want to work in an office in front of a computer, yet she admits she spends most of her time in front of a computer. I wonder if the freedom to drink is an issue. She sure brings up drinking a lot.
Dunno, but she's definitely got a Talking About Alcohol problem. It's like everyday: "toot toot! I'm drinking folks!" I mean, you can buy beer in Rite-Aid when you get some Immodium and a birthday card for you mother-in-law so she can't be that special, right? We get it, Jenna, you're a big girl now, you can have fermented beverages. It's not like it hasn't been over a decade since you were of legal age or anything.
DeleteIt makes me sick to see all of the people that flock to support Jenna financially. There are so many people out there with serious hardship that could use some help, but probably wouldn't accept it. First and foremost I think of families disrupted by an injured or killed service member. Why should Jenna get a free ride when the people who are fighting to preserve her right to be a self-centered, selfish, lazy no account are struggling? Jenna, you are able bodied, have shown, to some extent, the ability to hold down a white collar job that would easily support your fantasy farm, without the need to feed off the sympathy of poodles. How can you look yourself in the face in the morning? Or have you removed all mirrors from Poodleville? Oh, that's what I call your fantasy farm now. You are a Poodle at heart, and I think you know it. Only someone completely devoid of a conscience would behave the way you do.
ReplyDeleteRight, on the topic of "Many people out there with serious hardship that could use some help, but probably wouldn't accept it," if you look up @startafarm on Instagram (no blog) the woman who posts does some amazing things. She's living on a farm that presumably produces a huge (at least comparatively, she has said she doesn't feel they produce a tremendous amount of food but it looks like a lot to me) amount of wholesome, healthy, naturally-produced food from animals and fruits/veggies, in drought-stricken California nonetheless! I think she said they're not selling yet but hoping to soon-ish. Her animals look healthy, she's raising three kids I think, and the main thing is, she did a kickstarter or gofundme for donations to build a cabin to bolster their farm and many people donated but they didn't hit their goal.
DeleteYou know what she did? Returned the money, because she felt she hadn't earned it and it was the right thing to do. Many people seemed disappointed they couldn't support her farm but understood her decision.
I was blown away by that and very impressed - a hard choice. I'm not sure what's right or not but if someone is producing what they say they will without obscuring the truth, I feel the donators have fair notice of what they are donating to. Not so in the case of CAF.
From the "Jenna Has The Most Clueless Fans On The Planet" file:
ReplyDeleteSteve Price you look so lady like a true woman of class and refinement...
I'm lol-ing so hard!!!! Jenna's response to her critics!
ReplyDeleteJenna doth protest way, waaaayyy too much. She sounds like a 58 year old former alcoholic, multiple divorcee who's been through twenty years of therapy with a cheap shrink!!
"I like me, a lot. And I think that is the root of people's anger with me. They don't like that I like me."
Try again, Jenna. People don't like how you scam other people out of their money and neglect your animals.
DeleteIf she were just a garden variety asshole she wouldn't be amassing so many detractors--- the world's full of them-- this asshole has victims, two-legged and four.
DeleteOf course she likes herself a lot. She's a narcissist. She's in love with herself.
DeleteShe does like herself. That's one thing she has going for her, for sure. These pathetic people who believe she's a farmer, well, let's just say they're a match.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, since many of you feel a little like friends from having shared our experiences here... please, if you'd care to, send up a little prayer for a local young teenager who just passed away unexpectedly. His family works hard, and I hope they're not fretting about how to get together final expense money right now. It just makes a 33 yr old begging for a new truck more crass.
I know we don't usually share this sort of thing here, but it's so tragic and sad.
Sorry to hear of his passing. I can only hope the family has a strong support network.
DeleteI'm sorry to hear this, my sympathies to all.
DeleteJenna's begging isn't just crass, it's immoral-- there's a finite amount of money people are willing/able to give to charity, any money she's successfully diverts her way is taking away from worthy causes.
There's such a thing as an amoral sociopath. Beginning to wonder about JW.
ReplyDeleteDang it. I meant narcissistic sociopath. Was thinking of something else I guess. Grrr.
DeleteThat kinda works, too. Her moral compass has gotta be haywire to hustle gullible strangers the way she does.
DeleteHere's the Mayo Clinic description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/symptoms/con-20025568
DeleteInteresting. But as I understand it, a narcissistic sociopath is a combo diagnosis of Npd and anti-social personality disorder. I could be totally wrong, though. I'm not a doctor by any means.
DeleteHer kilts are from The Celtic Croft???!!!!!! Those kilts are HUNDREDS of dollars each. I think they range from $95 to $500 on that site. Her followers are so stupid.
ReplyDeleteHahahaha! Of course, she's not going to buy one off the clearance rack at JC Penney-- this is Jenna we're talking about.
DeleteIF JW pays back the Kiva loan - - and its a big IF, but IF she does, then I would be proud of her. Asking for, getting, using and paying back Kiva loans MIGHT be the first sustainable thing she has ever done. Please pay these people back, Jenna. Shut us up in all our griping about how we don't think you will pay people back. For the $100 I lost from you, please pay these people back.
ReplyDeleteShe will never, never, never pay back those loans. And they won't go after her either and she knows it.
DeleteShe will only pay back loans when someone twists her arm, like the mortgage company or repo man.
She's blowing up my feed almost daily with new pics of herself from every angle. The desired compliments roll in and she laps it up. One grey hair, who bears a noticeable resemblance to Boss Hog, is routinely slobbering all over her in the comments "Sexy knees though!!" ????? She has all the sex appeal of a Russian nesting doll. It's time for her to stop baiting her readers like a poodle in heat, turn off the computer and go meet some people out in the real world.
ReplyDeleteInteresting post on John Katz' blog re: Jenna's truck. Not sure what to make of it.
ReplyDeleteVery interesting indeed.
Deletehttp://www.bedlamfarm.com/page/2/
It seems a bit like a case of "I did it, so it's OK for Jenna to do it," as far as the loan, kickstarters, etc. What Jon doesn't seem to get is that she DOES beg, she does appear desperate at times, and although it's a loan she will NOT pay it back (something he says she will do). Good luck with that. I wonder if he'll write a retraction after no one gets paid.
DeleteI wonder if he realizes how many people she owes money too and how dishonest she has been about it.
DeleteKatz is all about Katz. He knows Jenna only when she provides fodder for his convoluted ramblings. He wrote a thinly veiled attack on her mid-winter but now he's championing her spunk and determination. Whatever, it has nothing to do with her-- he's just looking for another angle to demonize blog readers who dare to write anything that's remotely critical or contraditory because HE doesn't like it. And he's not paying terrible close attention to her because he's still hoping she gets her truck-- no shit, Jon, she funded it less than 24 hours after posting it.
DeleteJon and Jenna need to realize that if you're going to live you life with your hand out you're going to be scrutinized by those that might give you money.
It isn't honest to rally support from lenders by saying "help this farm get roadworthy again" with the foreboding tone that she will be without safe transportation when behind the scenes she's been having a spending spree on total nonessentials. The new puppy alone is worth half this old beater she's getting. This isn't a snapshot of the sharing economy at work, it's the disgusting manipulations of career con artist.
YES! Exactly. Right on. Nailed it.
DeleteThe sharing economy, give me an effin break!
DeleteBoth of them are narcissistic amoral intellectuals from suburbia coming into a rural community and pretending that it is some sort of therapy as they trounce the standards of the community - hard work, self reliance, and relationships built on trust and mutual care for those less fortunate. This bubble will pop at some point and basically they are both giving 'charity" a really bad name by flipping charitable giving into some self-centered solipsistic nightmare of greed!!!!
Whoa, whoa, whoa --- Katz may well be the closest thing to an intellectual Washington County can proffer up but the only place Jenna would be considered erudite is a truck pull.
DeleteCareer con artist- EXACTLY. CAF? Con Artist Farm. Or, Confined Animal Feedlot.. either way, she has missed the mark so badly, it's pitiful. I notice she is now putting on make up. She says she reads about these things, but it appears the make up is caked on. She is ugly, and by that I mean her soul. She never ever ever looks endearing, she looks evil to me. Imagine being one of her animals staring up at her as they starve to death, pleading for help before the life drains out of their body. She is a pox.
ReplyDeleteCon Artist Farm it is, please call it by its real name!!!
DeleteAntler Pox! Better stop it before it spreads to a farm near you!
ReplyDeleteWhat particularly appalls me about this is that not only is she fleecing yet another round of people, but she's giving Kiva loans a bad name.The fact that she managed to get approved puts a taint on every other business out there who uses Kiva for legitimate microloans to help them be successful.
ReplyDeleteThe only consolation is that when she doesn't pay this loan back, she won't be able to use Kiva again.
-CdP
IF one were to write to Kiva with their concerns they MIGHT receive an email back that looks like this:
DeleteThanks so much for your email and reaching out to us about Jenna Woginrich. I've passed your message along to our team who reviews and approves borrowers to fundraise on the Kiva Zip platform. They can follow up directly on these claims and make a decision whether or not to allow her to continue to fundraise on Kiva Zip.
Really appreciate you contacting us about this!
Best wishes,
Laura Piper
Senior Manager, Community
Kiva.org
Loans that change lives
WTF, the people of this blog need to do something!
ReplyDeleteJW has created her "brand" and her "following" and they are insane and manipulating the goodness of others, it makes me sick to see her bragging about her using microloans that were intended for real women starting businesses perverted for her second truck for gas guzzling and polluting in the fresh air of Washington county!
Katz, get involved, this is your neighbor who is dragging blogging into the cess pool of avarice and ponzi. It is unbearable, and yes you can proudly call me GINGER
The real GINGER??!! I mean, we are all Ginger here (if you know what I mean), but we were hoping for the real Ginger to find her way here!!! What CAN we do?? As long as JW has a following (people who all don't care about giving $25 they will never see again), then she can't be stopped. The normal people end up here, but she still retains enough people to fund her life. A class action suit? I don't know what to do. I will say from my experience at a workshop that JW is very socially awkward and all the "regulars" at those workshops are also socially awkward. They are all the kind of people who do better with online friends than real world friends. (not that there is anything wrong with that) They all seem to appreciate real world people that like them. The problem is that these people don't seem to see that JW is USING THEM for money while pretending to be friends. Its all really sad. If she paid people back or followed through with what she claims she will do and treated her animals better, none of us would be complaining.
DeleteAnon 11:19, that's an interesting observation you made about Jenna pretending to be friends with people, I also got that vibe from watching her interact online. Her friendships seem very lopsided--- rather than a relationship involving equals, Jenna is worshipped and admired and fawned over like she's royalty. I wouldn't put it past her to prey on people that are a little lonely or what you might call misfits.
DeleteHey Ginger - Thank you for having the kahunas to write what you did on JW's blog. You speak for all of us.
DeleteI just cancelled my subscription to the Bedlam Farm blog after what Katz had written about you. He can get someone else to fund his life.
No I am not the real GINGER, the poor sacrificial anonymous poster, but guess what Callous Ass Farm-not, I will not shut the F up. I will post on your FB and your blog and the Katz' too. I will fart in your bedroom and tell you and all your zombie wannabee's who can't bother to google the truth about you the TRUTH. You live on the internet, you get slapped on the internet, and we should write the effin Eagle about you too!
DeleteHilarious anon 6:34!!!!!
DeleteTime to start an Anna Kendrick drinking game......
DeleteA couple days ago someone told Jenna her glasses brought out her "inner Aniston". Today she tweeted: Happy Birthday @AnnaKendrick47 One of the 3 pieces of the trident of Earthly Perfection. Other 2: Jennifer Aniston and a sentient werewolf.
ReplyDeleteIf she was at all interested in Jennifer Aniston we'd have heard about it by now.....six times a day.
Twitter is where she supposedly reveals the R-rated Jenna.....because her mom doesn't read it........??? Standby for risque profundities like this: Music and Farming is it. The rest is just things keeping you from playing/listening and growing/eating. Also, sex.
And she seems to be tweeting at low-level celebs, comedians and internet personalities.....Anna Kendrick, Dan Harmon, Pete Holmes, and a bunch of others. It's like she's in high school, trying to get noticed by the cool kids.
that is a pretty common strategy to build a Twjtter following for marketing. She's ben deliberate about making her FB interactive with all of the questions and lists. My guess is that it's something a current published is requiring for a new book or prep for a new publisher.
DeleteHmmm, I didn't know that, but interesting. How does tweeting at these people build her following? Does it get the attention of Anna Kendrick's followers and then they follow Jenna?
DeleteI'm not very Twitter or marketing savvy (obviously).
Yeah it can. I'm no expert, but have run a development dept for a nonprofit that had marketing under me and have listened to a lot of entrepreneurish podcasts now that I'm on my own and this is a common strategy. You follow and tweet at people who have large followings or are in an area of interest for you. (i.e. most of who was tagged in that silly series of pics with the record player and the farm animals were publications she's pitching to like Modern Farm). Then some of them or their followers will follow you. Because they are also trying to build followers and/or are interested in what you put out there. She needs to show reach and audience. Same with promoting the Google channel to get the #'s up.
DeleteThere's nothing wrong with her strategy. Obviously, I read here because I have a problem with her content and methods. Sometimes I'd bet that I produce more of value and utilize as many "farming" skills from my 50x90 inner city lot that CAF actually does in a year while working full time in another separate business.
On a podcast I listened to on a walk this a.m., a speaker talked about his goal in his online presence being not to scale up his "conversion rates" (or clicks to income), but to scale up his trust level among his followers. JW came to mind - she is cranking through masses because she hasn't established any real trust. (because she isn't trustworthy)
Con Artist Farm?! That's great. Why didn't I think of that. It's exactly what CAF has turned into.
ReplyDeleteAnd what's with all the makeup now? I have no problem with her wearing makeup, but isn't it very poodle of her? I thought she was a werewolf, or something like that, and otherkins were poodles.
I mean, she writes about how dirty and stinky she is, how she rarely showers, so why pile on the makeup? This gal is full of contradictions.
She's trying to fend off spinsterhood.
Delete"Take dog to the bookstore:
Fantasy: Conversation starter with guys into books!
Reality: “Hello there, loud toddler #4 and Lesbian couple #3""
Dear Jenna- Your "Jumping Sheep" logo is wrong. That tail is clearly a goat tail...but surely a shepherd would know that.
ReplyDeleteSeems JW has the makings of a cult leader.
ReplyDeleteFrom Psychology Today - "...pathologically narcissistic. They all have or had an over-abundant belief that they were special and that they had to be revered. They overvalued themselves and devalued those around them, they were intolerant of criticism, and above all they did not like being questioned or challenged. And yet, in spite of these less than charming traits, they had no trouble attracting those who were willing to overlook these features."
More traits:
Has a grandiose idea of who he is and what he can achieve.
Is superficially charming.
Requires excessive admiration from followers and outsiders.
Has a sense of entitlement - expecting to be treated special at all times.
Is exploitative of others by asking for their money
Has “magical” answers or solutions to problems.
Anyone who criticizes or questions him is an “enemy.”
The word “I” dominates his conversations. He is oblivious to how often he references himself
Works the least but demands the most
Sound familiar?
I am very surprised at Jon Katz, although maybe I shouldn't be. For years, he wrote that he wouldn't take donations. That he was responsible for funding his own life. I respected him for that.
ReplyDeleteBut that was when he was at the top of his game and made good money on royalties. Now that he has lost it all, he's changed his tune. Remember the kickstarter project for his new camera and Maria's new sewing machine? He never would have done that years ago.
Now he is not only helping Jenna get her (cough, cough) loan, he admires her for it. Sharing economy, my foot. It is thinly disguised begging. Sharing means reciprocating. I doubt we'll ever see that.
What ever happened to his admonition not to listen to the Amen Charlies and Go Girls? Why did he call out Ginger on his blog? She was speaking the TRUTH! She was the only one to have the guts to say what we are all thinking here. The only one not to be an Amen Charlie and he disses her for it?
I am very disappointed in him. Not only that, I think he is grooming his followers for what is to come - a 'loan' for him.
The problem with people like JW and JK is that they don't want the corporate world, but they want all the benefits and financial security that goes with it.
ReplyDeleteIt was easy for Jon Katz for a long time. He wrote that he made a fortune and was a big shot. Now that royalties have shrunk he is feeling the pinch.
So to them the 'sharing economy' means "you go to work and share the wealth with me".
I just cancelled my subscription to the Bedlam Farm blog. I read all of Jon's books but got them from the library, so never paid for them. Since I enjoyed his blog for a long time, I felt it was only fair to part with $3/month to compensate him for his time.
But since I no longer agree with him, I'm free to leave. Especially after what he wrote about Ginger.
Bye, Jon. It was fun. But you'll have to find someone else who will share the economy with you.
He's been bullying people for a very long time-just Google his slashdot days. His blog has become repetitive, never edited and completely self serving.
DeleteJust so pleased to see sanity prevailing here, at least. Thank goodness people can read what is actually happening at Con Artist Farm.
ReplyDeleteI looked up the characteristics of a cult follower. Among the many common traits are someone who feels like an outsider and is looking to 'belong'. They are only too happy to turn over money to their 'leader'.
ReplyDeleteWhen someone criticizes JW, she calls them a miserable person, unhappy with their own life. I'm beginning to think that some of her followers may have those traits and are hoping some of JW's 'magic' will rub off on them.
As far as I can tell, this group seems to have a common thread. Hardworking people who pay their own way in life and can see through the BS.
I quit Katz a few weeks ago when he spent a thousand words filleting a fan who had written to him. He was frustrated that she had second-guessed a decision he had made about his animals, and he really let her have it. It was a savage and personal takedown. It was only a matter of time until Jenna felt bold enough to follow suit, and sure enough she did. They want fans to give them money and keep their mouths shut, because they're the ones with something interesting to say in the relationship, right? Plenty of talented writers whose work I enjoy are probably top notch assholes. But I enjoy their fiction writing, not the aggressive vitriol that spews from their crazy real lives. Katz and Jenna sell writing about their lives, and then when someone calls them out on the insanity of those lives, they say how dare you, you have no idea what my life is really like. Well look, then that just makes you a shitty or dishonest non-fiction writer. Makes me angry when they kick around readers for sport, when all the readers have done is question the quality of the product they're peddling. Don't sell your life story, monetize the minutiae of your daily existence, and then cry foul when people say the story isn't good. This is some hostile and crappy non-fiction they're selling, and I'm glad I'm done buying it.
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DeleteKaren, were you not FB friends with Jenna? Just wondering if she defriended/blocked you.
DeleteGreat post, too, agree with all of it.
I defriended her after the Ginger post. However thin the "friend" distinction is on Facebook, I didn't want any part of it.
DeleteI'm not proud of how upset I got every time she showed up in my feed. I enjoyed a couple of her early books, I was a fan! But her online presence reveals bad animal management, bad financial decision-making (this would be OK if she weren't encouraging others to follow the path with a devil may care attitude), and no evidence of any growth as a farmer/homesteader.
I wanted to watch her turn it all around, but she insists that this is the life she wants to live. I can't support that, so I'm voting with my feet -- no more clicks or views from me. I'll come back here to see how Meredith and her pigs and her sweet tree guy are doing, though. That's a story worth following.
Karen,
ReplyDeleteBravo indeed! And hasn't Katz written over and over about how much trouble he got into when he listened only to the Amen Charlies? How he dumped them because they only told him what he wanted to hear and cheered him on even though he was spiraling into madness?
And isn't he doing the same thing now? He needs to take his own advice.
That's what Katz wants you to believe. There were no Amen Charlies. He dumped people when they tried to tell him the truth of what he was doing. He ended up dumping everyone he knew because they got sick of the windbag and told him so.
DeleteHe is a pompous ass, who spends all freaking day long talking about himself. Even the causes he takes up are muses for him, so that he can gain more readers. He does not care one bit about anything but himself. He and Jenna ought to shack up. Share one username- J&J's Blow hard blog.
ReplyDeleteI don't comment on Jenna blog as I was "banned" for calling her out years and years ago. Glad Gingers commented squeezed through.
ReplyDeleteI commented on Katz's Facebook on the post about his blog about Jenna. After which he friended me on fb which is odd. Waiting for the you're a meanie fb message.
Either that or you're going to be the star of his next blog post.
DeleteThe more people that make their way to this site the better.
Katz isn't content to insult just his own readers (his bread and butter) but has to cross over and comment on Ginger, the commenter from Jenna's blog whose innocuous comment he quotes and then
ReplyDeletelumps with the meanies who in his words "punish honesty with cruelty and judgment"!! Haha- really, guys? Ginger was just being honest herself. Jenna and Jon, take some chill pills and get off your sanctimonious high horses. It would be funny if you weren't spewing the very vitriol you accuse their readers of. You're both dependent on the Internet for your livelihood. Katz puts himself above Jenna, implying his "ways of living with animals" are superior to his, and saying her farm isn't sustainable, and he only crowd funds for his work, not his "need". What a joke.
ie "your readers" (not "their") and "hers"(not "his" ways of living...) I have to correct my writing but Katz's blog is the sloppiest, most
Deletemistake-ridden blog I've come across. He
wants to be paid for his work as "a writer
should be" but he puts out the most shoddy product. Not only does he have wrong
spellings galore and lousy punctuation - he regularly uses commas as periods, for
example - but he mixes up the names of
people and animals and objects with the
effect of completely distorting the meaning.
His blog became too much effort to read
and he apparently doesn't care. I doubt his
mistakes have gone unremarked on. I
looked forward to reading his "official"
statement on the carriage horse issue and
was astounded that a professional writer
would put that out a piece so in need of proof-reading and editing. And this is a
critical issue to him. I would never pay for writing so clumsy and unpolished. It's not
worth fighting through, even if he had the
most sparkling, illuminating things to say. His content gets lost in poor execution.
(Sorry for the awkward formatting - from my mobile).
DeleteI think he's actually said he doesn't care about editing, it's not his job [which is rather stupid if you are a writer]-and I find it sloppy too,and also arrogant "I am the great and powerful Oz, er KAtz ,and I don't have to spell or puncuate". I think he considers himself the new superhero for the ordinary folk, because when Katz wags his finger and opens his mouth, he is starting to really believe he can raise money of any amount, for anything, just because he has given it his gold Katz post. But I've seen him use it against people too, but in a very subliminal way, and I think he did that with the jenna truck post last week- I might be the only one, but I took the post to be belittling to her, but clothed in obvious [if you know Katz's history] disdain and judgment. What if that were turned around, and she wrote about him that way for , say buying a new camera on Kickstarter and saying, "You know, it's not my life, but spending money got him in trouble before, i just hope my friend Jon watches out"-he'd be livid and would put on a show about it.
DeleteHe also posted it after it was funded, pretending he didn't know it was funded. I will give JW credit for not biting at it, even when someone on her FB page asked if she had seen it. That was probably the first professional think I've heard her say online! He is also so inconsistant with his fact, or statements. But my favorite a woman made a comment that Blue Star Equiculture [his latest muse] does not have a hyphen in it, and he was putting a hyphen in the name. He insisted to her it did. She siad, politely, but look it up. He commented again in a snarky way. Well, you don't have to be a genius to go tot their website?! SO very quietly, about a day or two later, without his usual in your face fan the flames to get people commenting, he quit using the hyphen. It just cracked me up. He just can never be wrong! And if I have t hear one more time, "I used to be driven around in limos..." gag.
Crossing over onto another's blog, uninvited, and insulting someone there that he had no beef with whatsoever. That was between JW and the poster. Maybe he's scared off all controversial posters on his blog, and has to go "hunting."
DeleteWell, Jon, I have a little advice for you. Remember the grade school acronym, MYOB? (Mind Your Own Beeswax). I have one for you: MYOB Mind Your Own Blog!
Look, I'm no grammar snob but if he can't take the time to give his posts a read through for coherence, at the very least, why should I waste my time trying to decipher it?
DeleteI would never buy chicken from this turkey.
ReplyDeleteThis is Jenna's response to someone who described their well-built chicken housing:
Jenna Woginrich I agree 100% this is better, but it will cost a lot more to build that way than to buy 30% extra chickens.... loss is expected with this set up, so I buy in at the beginning - but nights like this mean full watch
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Forgot to say-- 12 chickens dead today. How many must die before she builds a predator proof chicken coop? Or just stop raising chickens (please!)............?
DeleteMany many more! Cause a stake-out and shoot-out at the Con Artist Corral is so much more dramatic than safer housing for her chickens. And this way both prey and predator will die. Just keep enough livestock around to play records with and
Deletehave as wallpaper for her selfies. Did you see vlog 51? The only new things goin' on at Jenna's play is a proud play by play of how strangers bought her a truck (we know Jenna, we know) and a montage of
previously posted pics of her wasting time dancing with herself, and in pumps even! (Every farmer needs special shoes and a new colorful kilt to dance in the barnyard in) Forget wood, hay, truck repairs or keeping those photo- op ready animals safe. That's not fun! Oh and the root canal! --so not fun. This is the intermission before the next crisis. But shhh! don't disturb her play or she will have some very nasty things to say.
vlog 51? You mean the one where Jenna channeled Bob Barker showcasing her new old truck like she was on The Price Is Right?
DeleteIf it's not raccoons, it's foxes and now even Plott hounds.....you can't wipe out every predator, Jenna, but you can build a safer chicken coop or get an LGD.
Her ego is on overdrive tonight.
ReplyDelete"Your food doesn't come from the grocery store. It doesn't come from metal carts. It comes from shit, blood, death, sacrifice, and constant effort from people who still can't help but be close to the ground they'll be buried in. Agriculture is all culture. If you care about anything else, anything at all, it's because someone else is out there growing your food. Be grateful. Wake up."
Dear Jenna, Someone else is out there paying your way. Be grateful. Wake up.
DeleteIf you say "fuck" when you comment she will now reward you.
ReplyDeleteJenna Woginrich I appreciate the swearing here.
Jenna Woginrich JFW
I guess this is cool....if your fan base is in seventh grade.
Because she hasn't had enough compliments today she reminded her readers it was time to pucker up:
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So here is a worthy boast. Since June 28th I am down 20 pounds, thanks to quitting carbs and sugar and running a lot. Sneakers and keto get a gal pretty far.
It wasn't that long ago she had lost 20 lbs total, now it's 20 pounds since June 28 alone.
And she's also shrinking vertically, it seems. She has bragged about being 5'3" so many times I know this without looking.
Jenna Woginrich My goal is to weigh 165 pounds at 5'2" and that is still 10 pounds off. I know that sounds heavy but I am built as dense as a dying sun
Jon Katz skewered me publically on his blog years ago based on a private email I sent. I wasn't commenting on his life at all. I was talking about the difference between anxiety and fear based on the lack of a stable income although doing what you want in life versus fear and anxiety not doing what you want in life, but getting a stable paycheck. I was stunned that he treated me so poorly in publically for raising such a "deep" question. Does anyone know why Maria puts up with it? She seems like a decent person???!! If my husband slammed people like that I would be embarrassed and disappointed in his hubris.
ReplyDeleteKatz is so hypocritical you could get dizzy watching him whip from side to side.
Delete--Katz is appalled by the public shaming of the man who killed Cecil the lion.
--Katz publicly shamed Ginger for expressing herself.
He really gets off on belittling people from his podium, that's for sure.
Anon 11:26 - You raised a very good question. Maybe he skewered you because it touched a nerve. Yes, it's all well and good to talk about leaving the corporate life, but then the question remains, how do you support yourself?
DeleteIf you're lucky, like Katz was for a long time, you can write and your books will sell. Or be made into a movie. If he was smart, he would have invested the money into something that would have produced an income stream when the writing well ran dry.
However, he admits he blew the money. I'm sorry he did that, but no one should feel that they owe him a living.
He is also bombastic about not caring about IRA's and pensions, but he is terrified that he doesn't have either.
Like Jenna, he is full of contradictions.
Varmint freeloader, the raccoon did more work than she did, gods help the man gotta push Gibson out of the bed - damn this crap is crazy, and Katzy, he's a piece of work, maybe there's some weirdness in this area, aliens landing in the fields etc
ReplyDeleteLol!
DeleteTin cups and repos coming,
ReplyDeleteWe're finally on our own?
This summer I hear the drumming,
Chickens dead in Washington co.
Gotta get down to it
Raccoons are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew my farm
And found birds dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?
Please send more $$ to CAF, the Ginger fund - thanks y'all
That was brilliant.
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She definitely has her priorities upside down if she'll spend $1000+ on a dog but not spend that amount to fix a lot of her facility problems. And the fact that she continually hides behind "well that's just farming" bullshit is just bullshit.
ReplyDeleteNo farmer I know willingly goes into a livestock venture with the resolution that they'll lose a good portion of their stock. That's just asinine.
Triple points for the swearing...right?
~j~
I see one poster suggested that hardware cloth instead of chicken wire worked well for them to keep out raccoons. But, no, JW buys a kilt for the same amount it would take to fortify her tractors. I have never lost a single bird (duck or chicken) to predators. A bit of luck, as they free range on my fenced acre during the day, but also vigilance and a predator-proof coop.
ReplyDeleteSeriously - a dozen chicks and she is so light hearted about it. I guess there is little economic impact and then there's the new used truck that readers bought her. But what really bothers me is not the economics of it but the immoral husbandry - how can you set up chickens to die by being pulled slowly through chicken wire?
ReplyDeleteAnd then, you know, just say whatever it's farming. The first time I raised chickens I lost 20 birds in one night to opossums and raccoons, but I never lost another chicken because I predator-proofed their coops. The reader recommending hardware cloth is correct, but I am guessing there is another toy more worthwhile and hey, it was only 25 bucks worth of chicken. She'll never do it because she stated upfront she was prepared to lose chicken lives.
I'm a committed carnivore but I believe in humane slaughter and the sociopathic carelessness and indifference of her attitude bothers me more than I can say.
The greatest irony of this is that for years she was a vegetarian because she was appalled at the way factory farms treated their animals. Yet she thinks those chicks somehow had a much better life and death and is OK with planning for, and even anticipating that kind of violent death in her operation so she can eat and sell the remaining chicken meat. I would buy factory-farmed chicken before I bought hers. Her justifications are truly scary sometimes.
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It is so foolish the way she talks about the money aspect of livestock losses. When a chick dies, you don't just lose the money you spent on buying the day-old chick. You lose that, plus the money you spent on feed and supplies for that chick, plus the real kicker: the income you could have realized off that chick once it grew up and became a saleable product. She can't get back the weeks the chick spent in her sorry enclosure -- the opportunity to make money off that effort and space is forever gone, leaving a big empty hole where she should have a chicken in her freezer or a dollar in her pocket. It's expensive to lose livestock because it wastes finite time and space.
DeleteShe talks a lot about how short life is, how you shouldn't waste a single minute of it, etc. I can think of few things more wasteful to do on a farm than expend feed and time and energy on inadequately housed livestock. Unless of course she's just enjoying the act of farm work -- watch me do all these chores, golly isn't farming hard and awesome! -- but a successful outcome doesn't matter. In that case, I wish she would just play with inanimate objects, go tend a failing garden of non-sentient squashes. Wasting chicken lives is a sorry way to fail at food production.
Here we go.
ReplyDeleteGibson's cut his paw and needed "surgery" and the bill will be high. Jenna is running a sale on logos to pay for it, the pitch is followed by this reminder "It's the 3-paw special today, folks.".
When you try to sell logos to the same group of people on your friends list repeatedly (for months? years?) it is known as begging. She knows only some people will need a logo so this way she begs and saves face.
Also, why wait for a vet emergency to drum up work? Does she only work when the checkbook is empty?
Someone suggested she look into pet insurance, her response:
Jenna Woginrich Darling, I don't even have health insurance smile emoticon
Her readers are her insurance!
She mentioned a logo sale on Facebook just yesterday and every week or 2 it seems. I remember in Spring, she was having a desperation sale the last one for a long while- so she said. That didn't last long. What do you call a sale that is ongoing? That's really false advertising. Same with workshops. If she has to keep discounting
Deleteher products, something ain't working. The crises won't stop, Jenna, no matter how
dreamy you tell yourself your life is. What's your plan for the next and the next,
because they will happen. More logo sales? Kiva loans on top of Kiva loans? If Gibson could talk (and Merlin, and Maude and all the dead chickens), what would they say? You can't take care of your "best dog in the world" never mind yourself because that's your choice, but your animals deserve better.
I believe, based on things she has said online and on FB, that she is just fine financially. But she does use situations like Gibson's paw, her root canal, etc. to enhance and pad her bottom line by soliciting donations based on a perceived need when a "crisis" happens. People are more likely to donate to someone who says they are about to go under and are in dire straits than someone who says "all is well but send some money anyway." It's the same with the wool hat getting put up for sale. If people think she's parting with her last near-and-dear objects, they will tell her to keep the hat and just send her some money. It's really quite well thought out from a marketing standpoint, although dishonest as all get-out.
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Isn't it now illegal to be completely without health insurance?
DeleteI'm puzzled...
Delete...isn't that just part of farming...chickens die, lambs get run to death, dogs get hurt. Just slough it off and move on, right? Farming is farming and when you have livestock you also have deadstock..it's just part of farm life.
Double standard.
I'm being sarcastic here, just in case y'all were puzzled and thought I was an unfeeling nut case.
But, the flip flopping is dizzying
Yes, it is now illegal to be without health insurance. The thing is, a lot of people like JW go without, then pay the fine at the end of the year via their tax return. I don't believe the fine is too much right now, but I did read some time ago that it was to raise every year for a few years to phase out people who refused coverage and just wanted to pay the fine.
DeleteDarling??? She is SOO patronizing.
DeleteYeah - actually not.a.good.policy if you're broke and your readers are ALL you have.
DeleteCondescension is JW'S default.mode when they speak truth or.suggest caution or preparation or fiscal.sense. Those concepts are foreign in Jenna's chosen lifestyle and they will not be tolerated. Those commenters will be put in their place.one way or another.
Yes yes yes yes and yes about her unconscionable chicken ownership methods and technique.
ReplyDeleteUnreal.
We all need to leave reviews on Amazon for Chick Days. Buyer beware.
I'm not an animal lover, but if she lost chickens again, in a completely preventable way, this has to equal Animal Cruelty. Enough of this already. And there shouldn't be lots of shit, blood etc., to raise food, why is she lathering in it? I can't imagine setting up animals for such a cruel death! Disturbing!
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