Thursday, November 7, 2013

Narcissistic Personality Disorder?

Narcissistic Personality Disorder is characterized by a long-standing pattern of grandiosity (either in fantasy or actual behavior), an overwhelming need for admiration, and usually a complete lack of empathy toward others. People with this disorder often believe they are of primary importance in everybody’s life or to anyone they meet. While this pattern of behavior may be appropriate for a king in 16th Century England, it is generally considered inappropriate for most ordinary people today.

People with narcissistic personality disorder often display snobbish, disdainful, or patronizing attitudes. For example, an individual with this disorder may complain about a clumsy waiter’s “rudeness” or “stupidity” or conclude a medical evaluation with a condescending evaluation of the physician.

In laypeople terms, someone with this disorder may be described simply as a “narcissist” or as someone with “narcissism.” Both of these terms generally refer to someone with narcissistic personality disorder. Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following symptoms:

Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

Requires excessive admiration

Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder-symptoms/

La la...connect the dots....

"Jenna. When I met you, just three years ago, you were… farmCurious. You had three sheep, a few chickens, and that's it. Now you have mastered this place."

Brett isn't one to hand out compliments. I didn't believe him, but he had my attention. Master? Are you kidding me? Yet that strong a word has a lot of weight and it made me pause, think, and reevaluate what I had all around me.

I thought about how the day before I had taken two live roosters and turned them into food. How I taught this skill to a friend and together we butchered seven birds. I thought about my demonstration bird and the perfect kill stroke of the hatchet. I thought about the dozens and dozens of birds it took to get to such a point of confidence in teaching such a slaughter to others. The woman just a few years earlier was a vegetarian who thought fox hunting was along the same lines as vehicular manslaughter. That growth is something.

I thought about the sheep I just sold him, four large and healthy animals we loaded into the back of his truck with our own hands and my dog. Gibson and I are not sheepdog trial stars, nor are we anything special. But we did work as a team, him reading me and I reading him and communicated the work of gathering sheep and at the end of the day he had certainly helped to do the work he was bred for. That doesn't just happen. It was three years of working and living side-by-side, on this little farm. That relationship is something.

I thought about that hill side I am so ashamed of. And how even if it is a disaster, it is MY disaster. That this is land I own, bought myself, and raise food on. That I had a whole plan on paper for re-seeding and healing my mistakes and that is something. Even though it was a sloppy first-three years it was also impermanent. This wasn't a jail-sentence, but an interim. And a mistake that one summer of proper seeding and nature's blessing could return to grass, and eventually, livestock. The video is showing you dirty underwear, but you can do laundry. It's never too late to wash those drawers. That realization is something.

And yes, my body isn't something you'll find molded out of plastic at the GAP modeling a sweater. But you know what, it's my body. It is alive in every sense, and only getting better with every year. It's got curves and it knows what to do with them. It can buck hay, carry full-grown goats, ride a draft horse up a hill, and hit a bullseye with a good arrow. It can run, swim, smile, and shine. It has loved men, climbed mountains, and smote epic summer jogs. Plastic people can not do these things. They do not even try.

So from a few dead chickens, a dirt hill, and four sold sheep I got a little perspective, thanks to Brett McLeod. All it took was letting myself choose to see the positive instead of my haunting negatives. I am all those things I said in the beginning of this post, but I am more than that, too. I am a woman (not a girl) who has fought and won the life she desperately wanted. I have gone from half-hour rides on dressage horses at lesson barns to traveling miles by horse cart from my own front lawn. I have learned to spin wool, chop firewood, heat my home, milk goats, breed critters, and sell pigs. I am a hopeless romantic, morally secure, spiritually wealthy, and a powerhouse of hope and force. I have grown so much, more than anything else on this farm that was ever so planted and it truly floors me when I think about it. You can go back to the beginning of this blog and read a life from a total beginner who had no idea what was happening, just the passion to try. Now there's a lot more frustration and fear, yes. And a lot of healing of mind and land to happen, but I am certainly equipped to pull both off. I needed a lumberjack to tell me that. I needed a witness.

I am not a failure. Cold Antler is not a failure. It's just a beginning.

And that's some serious perspective.

http://coldantlerfarm.blogspot.com/2013/11/perspective.html?m=1

I'm fairly certain Jenna pulled off meeting not just 5 but all symptoms of NPD in the above post alone.

I have been reading the Cold Antler Farm blog for sometime now, and almost immediately I noticed an overwhelming if not overpowering trend of self congratulating superiority.  Blogs and books are written with the driving force of a woman obsessed with being unique.

It's a me vs them mentality...

I assure you Jenna, western saddle vs dressage/english, horse vs pony, riding vs driving, kilt vs skirt, falconry vs volunteering at a wildlife rescue, a large border collie vs small border collie, curves or not, hot tubbing and drinking vs tubing and drinking (ugh, stupid frat kids)...it goes on and on.

So you take hobbies or skills enjoyed or known by many and try to spin it as something out of the realm of possibility and if that's not enough belittle those who don't participate or do so in a different manner.

'It's got curves and it knows what to do with them. It can buck hay, carry full-grown goats, ride a draft horse up a hill, and hit a bullseye with a good arrow. It can run, swim, smile, and shine. It has loved men, climbed mountains, and smote epic summer jogs. Plastic people can not do these things. They do not even try.'

Is it possible by curves you mean fat and by plastic you mean fit?

I assure you, it doesn't take curves of nonplastic to carry livestock or ride a horse, to love or be loved, or to simply be active...or just be.

Being special isn't being better or superior, its being your own special self.

127 comments:

  1. You forgot to mention that she studies Gaelic, and is a medieval historian. And she even speaks Gaelic out loud to Gibson without even realizing it! That's how much better at speaking Gaelic she is than you are, so you better not even try!!

    Give me a break.

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  2. good points, reading cold antler is like watching a trainwreck happen in slow motion.

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  3. I absolutely love everything you've written from "Blogs and books...a woman obsessed with being unique" all the way down. I never thought of it that way, but that is definitely how it comes across. The plastic part: it's that same old canard of "real women have curves" which is offensive to women who do not, due to genetics, conscientiousness, or even eating disorder. The way Jenna writes is a black and white world, which is always troubling to me. I've found too often in the past the more strident I get about a subject, the less secure I am about that subject being something good in my life.

    I also don't understand the continual obfuscations. She was patting herself on the back a few weeks ago that she's a few days behind her mortgage after 18 months of being self-employed. That may be true now, but she claimed back in August that she was months behind on her truck and the mortgage, right? Does she think no one remembers this stuff? I'm not claiming that anyone has to be perfect with money, but it's just weird.

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  4. She's like a gimme, gimme, gimme; now, now, now toddler with a low boredom thresh hold. With every new bright shiny thing she is off in a different direction. It's like watching a ping pong ball.

    Until she grows up and matures out of her little self made fantasy world I don't think she'll every change. Buy, hey that's not the fun life. That's how we complacient, afraid to take a chance, cubicle working drones live. Right? There's something to be said for the security of a roof over my head, food on my table and the security of knowing I'm NOT on the brink of losing it all. For that I'll take a few less chickens to feed and a few less toys to spend money. But, then I've always been the weird one. Or is that mature and responsible. So hard to tell these days with all the instant gratification.

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  5. The BIG post is in!

    20 bucks for a half breed chicken!!! Call it what you will deary, but you don't have a new (or special) breed until the APA forms the standards and declares it so.

    Snow tires - can't you use them for more than one year because the tread is still good?

    "I also ask you post this on your farm-friendly Facebook Pages" - yeah right!!! No chance I'm directing my readers to this catastrophe.

    $450 for a season pass!...is she on crack? What info can she impart that is worth $450?

    Plea, beg, cry, sob, woe is me...blah, blah, blah

    What should anyone subscribe for? All her content now revolves around crisis and begging, nothing worth paying for.

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  6. If you need to get rid of animals there is always the livestock sales yard. Quick, clean and money in your hand.

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  7. LOL!!!!!! Anon Nov 7 10:59, you are "cracking" me up! ;-)

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  8. Glad I was able to brighten your day=)

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  9. God help the hawk population, she's going trapping tomorrow.

    Hopefully her mentor realizes how unsuitable she is.

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  10. Lack of research and planning result in no hawk trapping.

    Glory be the is a God in heaven looking out for his creatures. But, if state and fed govt would just lay down all they are doing and "pull out all the stops" it might still be a go.

    REALLY!!! As if they all have nothing better to than attend to you fantasy. Good grief what an ego!

    But, you can still purchase a couples fiddle camp package for $500 cause Gosh we still aren't ready for winter.

    The slippery slope is getting slicker.

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  11. Oh no.... she's got another book coming out in June!!! Agh! Another memoir? She's like 30 something? How can a 30 year old have enough stuff for like three memoirs??? Shesh... Oh well. :-)

    http://www.amazon.com/Cold-Antler-Farm-Celebrating-Homestead/dp/1611801036/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1384137766&sr=1-6&keywords=jenna+woginrich

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  12. Um, actually the new one will be memoir number four. And the answer is that it's easy when all of the memoirs have the same material.

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  13. Interesting to find this blog, I thought I was the only one reading with my jaw dropped!

    What I can't figure out is why does Storey keep giving her book deals? I know nothing about book proposals but that really makes me wonder. I haven't read any since the first one and it was just OK. Didn't really feel like I learned anything from it at all and am not compelled to read any of the others.

    I've read the blog off and on over the years not because I learn anything from it but that it's almost like I can't avert my eyes from the craziness! I find it absolutely amazing that anyone would donate given the fact that the she promised several times to create webinars and never followed through and stiffed the fiber CSA contributors without having done any research into costs BEFORE selling the goods. And then I remember someone in the comments mentioning that she felt hurt (rightfully so!) after donating and not even getting as much as a thank you. And the arrogance of the response to that person, who may have had little extra money herself but gave it to someone she most likely has never even met, was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Stating there just isn't enough time for her to even acknowledge someone's contribution made her sink to a new low in my mind. How could a person practice all of the free time hobbies she has, yet not take a minute or two to thank a contributor?

    And begging for money to support the "farm" when you have the money to order and have shipped milk bottles labeled "goat milk" when a simple half gallon canning jar would suffice? There is only one person in the house, who's going to be impressed that the milk jug says "goat milk"? And the audacity to justify any frivolous purchase as necessary while the mortgage is past due? There is no way I could talk about some of these things in a public forum and try to justify my decisions or unnecessary purchases, I would be too ashamed!

    Good grief. I could go on and on. I am so glad to know it's not just me sitting here incredulous!



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    1. Totally agree. Did you catch this morning's post? A long entry about how she now has the permits to trap a hawk. Poor hawk... The new, shiny plaything makes her forget about her past due bills, her sick lamb, sick dog, the cat she hates, to say nothing of the thank you notes that should have been sent. What a scam artist she is.

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    2. She is clearly a person whose moral compass doesn't point true north.

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  14. Oh, she is taking the time to thank the lady at the Permit Office, and mailing her a copy of her book and all. See, if you are really making things happen for her, she will thank you then... ;-) Goodness. Fly Hawks! Fly! Fly!!!!

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  15. I am very sad that she is now permitted to trap and keep another animal, when she clearly can't maintain what she has. Deer season starts on the 18th, so hopefully the Hawks will be scared...

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    1. I was hoping that her mentor would see the real JW with the paper mess, but apparently not.

      Too bad she doesn't put as much work, energy and determination in taking are of her other animals.

      Wonder what happens if you kill a wild animals you have trapped through this program.

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    2. I kind of feel bad for her mentor because he seems like a nice man and he has no idea. I think she must be an excellent salesperson. She seems to easily cajole anyone into believing in her.

      I often used to think that my opinions were misplaced due to the fact that I wasn't seeing the whole story, only the wild stuff on the blog. But since I've read comments here from people who know her in person, I guess I'm not too far off base.

      Amazing!

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    3. Maybe narcissistic personality disorder...I suggest borderline personality disorder. Come on BPD folks can convince anyone of anything. They make great sales people and corporate execs.

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  16. She just posted a picture of her new puppy's litter on Facebook...however is she affording yet another dog? On the kennel's website it says puppies start at $800. She's so delusional- just last week she was panicing and begging for donations to get her prepped for winter, this week shes getting another expensive mouth to feed. Another border collie to ruin and another animal to be put out by the wayside- remember how Jasper was her spirit animal before she got Merlin? Now we hear nothing of jasper. Poor Gibson, enjoy your time in the spotlight now, buddy you're about to be replaced by a newer model!!!

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    1. That jumped off the page when I saw the picture. Apparently it's more important to purchase a puppy than to pay the mortgage. Or to get around to mailing two years' worth of pre-paid CSA wool. Insane.

      Mark the calendar: in 8-10 weeks when she picks the new puppy up, there'll be heaps of adorable pictures, followed by a monetary crisis. Puppy vet visits, vaccinations, airline fees, registration, quality food..... meanwhile, the sheep will continue eating hay and the electrical bill needs to be paid and the mortgage is late. INSANITY.

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  17. She's getting a puppy? must have missed that blog post... from what kennel? I'm guessing they accept payment plans, but for posting a few pictures a month hopefully those faithful readers will donate or subscribe so she can keep the dog?!

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    1. It was posted via Facebook - Red Top Kennels.

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    2. Please let this be her trolling all of us.

      Please.

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  18. Horrible, just horrible, someone PLEASE contact Red Top...

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  19. Hawks & Sewing
    ...Have taken over my life this week.

    OH poor baby!! But, seems she still has time to PLAY GAMES

    Wish I had that kind of time.

    Maybe I should beg for donations on my blog then I might have plenty of time to ride ponies, play games, sew and trap a hawk.

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  20. Aaah, the same kennel she got Gibson from. how many pets can one finance?

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  21. $800 a pop... hope all those supporters are happy where their money is going... anyone remember how this is reminiscent of her pre-eviction times in Vermont?

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  22. How long do you think it will be before she's offering to take advance payments for CAF bred border collies. My guess would be about 20 minutes after she gets the new pup. I can almost hear the thought process "I'll sell puppies in advance, and the down payments will pay off the new pup and then I can keep the rest." I'm sure she'd be happy to take down payments on 50 pups if she could find 50 people who are that gullible.

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  23. Didn't she say the snow tires were $750?
    Isn't hay like $7 a bale
    Can't she get firewood for about $100 a cord
    Bills, groceries, gas

    So...let's think this through...
    * 4 new snow tires
    * over 100 bales of hay
    * 8 or more cords of firewood
    * one mortgage payment
    * catching up on the bills

    OR...

    one flipping puppy!!!

    WAY skewed on the priorities front.

    There's no hope for this chick.

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  24. And, this is from her Vermont days, just before she was evicted
    "When we returned to the farm we were met by a big silver truck. A man came out with a silver badge and announced he was Animal Control. I didn't roll my eyes, but wanted to. I wasn't worried in the least and Annie and I walked right up to him and shook hands.

    He went on to explain that someone had filed a complaint about how I take care of my animals. They told him my rabbits were in too small of cages, the goat was suffering, no one had bedding, there was feces everywhere and I keep my dogs in cages all day. (That last one was especially hard to swallow with Annie sitting happily by my side.) He told me I had nothing to worry about. He said he checked out the entire property and my animals and their homes were in great shape, that the complaint was ridiculous and the case would be closed. He actually used the word pristine to describe my animals' living conditions and overall health compared to some places he has to visit.

    We talked for a long time. He was a really kind man, a retired police officer and seemed to be tired of having to seek out complaints like this. He said over 60% of reports about farm animals come from people without farm animals. That a lot of activists call because they don't understand why a goat would live differently than a labrador. I asked for a copy of his detailed report so I had it on file. He told me he'd gladly mail it and gave me a contact number in case I ever need to get in touch with him again. He then shook my hand, wished me a Merry Christmas, and told me people who complain about nothing and waste the state's resources should be fined. I liked him.

    The state of Vermont officially recognizes me as "not a crappy person". I'm framing that report when I get it. "

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  25. And things are a whole lot worse now- that lamb is still not recovered- and cannot get up, TWO weeks later

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  26. The above comment about CAF puppies is what makes me most sad at heart. Gibson was still intact last time the subject came up, (http://coldantlerfarm.blogspot.com/2013/01/i-just-walked-in-on-this.html)

    ......and she's getting a female.

    ~A

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  27. To those of you on Facebook, what has the reaction regarding the new dog been from the followers? Radio silence? Is there really anyone out there who is like "yay, good for you"?

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    1. Tons of "yayyyyy!!!!" and "good for you!!!", none if her followers have a grip on reality either. Or they're just plain stupid, which is also a possibility.

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  28. I think I'll just send her a LOOOOONG personal email outlining all these indiscrepancies. And asking her if she's had a psychological evaluation lately.

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  29. Hmmm... did she take it down? All I can see is her saying the puppy litter is beautiful, on the Red Top Kennel facebook page.

    Gosh, I would be stunned if she is getting another dog. Well, not really I guess. With everything so dicey? How can even the Jennafans think this is a good idea? Wow. Just Wow.

    CAF Puppy Mill, eh? Ugh...

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    1. She shared the litter picture earlier this week and said that one of them "will have some cold antlers". It's still posted on her page.

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  30. No, it's still there, in one of the January entries. The problem is that she will take a well bred dog like Gibson was, and ruin in, like everything else she touches.

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  31. Now two new animals to worry about, a dog and (god help us if she can even catch one) a hawk. I just pray the kennel owner comes to their senses, and all the hawks steer clear of her. At least she can't go out and buy a hawk.

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  32. And...the goat is back.

    In a few months she will have lambing, kidding, puppy, hawk (pray that doesn't happen) not to mention every day chores and winter to contend with.

    I can almost hear the crisis panic stricken blog post from across the country.

    There is great value in knowing when to stop. Clearly she has not gained that knowledge. But, the universe has a way of shoving it down your throat.

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  33. To be honest, we were all young and foolish at some point, taking on too many things, being a little bit irresponsible, because that's how we learn to be responsible.. when it all comes back to bite up in the rear. And life does have so much to offer.

    But gosh, if ANYTHING happens to her.. a bad illness, a broken bone, some medical issue, a family emergency... it's all the animals that will suffer. Sure... friends will help for awhile. But her ark is getting a little full and the learning curve with all this stuff can be staggering.

    I wonder just how much of all this is to keep her excitement/writing factor high to keep all the Jennafans interested. The public is a very fickle thing. If she doesn't appeal to as many of the hip young farmer types, by being an "expert" in so many things (after a wee bit of study and application on them) she will drift off into boring, has been, done that land.... Sad...

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  34. Common now... be fair too... kidding season? One goat? Lambing season? ah like a few ewes? That won't take THAT long... and a puppy, well, most people can deal with a puppy in daily life. We all do it if we have dogs. Hawk... well, that can't exactly be a job/chore that takes hours and hours a day... Lots of people have lots of animals and if they are dedicated, those daily chores can be done fairly quickly... I think it's not so much the "time" involved, it's the money for all the animals., hobbies, life without a steady income. That really to me is the most upsetting thing. Being a single gal, which of course we hear about constantly, she does have a huge burden of taking care of the whole shooting match. Why in the heck she doesn't go and get some sort of part time job. Crap, even working at the dollar store or something would insure a more steady stream of hay, feed and heating money, not to mention mortgage payments to keep this crazy life afloat. All the hobbies after the animals, that really is the icing on the irresponsibility cake, if you ask me.

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    1. I believe that training a wild, immature hawk should take hours and hours a day. Real falconers are very devoted to their birds. She just wants one as a prop to go along with her Fell pony, riding kilt, and archery.

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  35. Yes, we were all young once, but at age 30 it's time to be an adult and realize you can't just skip through life doing whatever you want without any thought about the repercussions. She is an adult, and that means she needs to be responsible for her own actions. If she is late on the bills, it's because she didn't pay them. I was more responsible at 15 than Jenna is at 30. She is a lazy, manipulative, user who wants to have others pay her way so she can continue to play farm and not work. WHY are people still doing it?!!!!

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  36. "My hair was brushed and plaited into pig tails, for hygienic reasons if nothing else. It had been too cold, (and I had been too busy) to just hop in the shower. When you work from a home office and everyone expects you to look a little feral - you don't mind the break. I digress."

    SLOB!! She is home ALL DAY and can't shower? Gross.

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  37. She is just gross... Hey, did anyone notice that she was not invited back to the Mother Earth News fair this year?

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  38. I don't think she was there last year either.

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  39. Why is she spending $800 on a dog when she still hasn't sent the wool she promised to the folks who paid $200 each to participate in the fiber CSA? Her first priority should be making things right for those people. Jenna, I hope your reading this because this just makes you look like a bad person. A selfish, immature person. When you have a business, sometimes you need to sacrifice what you want to have for yourself personally so you can afford to give what you promised people in good faith.

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    1. You last sentence is right on. Although she keeps talking about getting serious about finances, I certainly haven't seen it! Just this hawk issue-a recent entry listed a beginner falconry kit she bought online. Do a search on that, it doesn't seem like they're cheap. Wouldn't exactly call that a business expense for a sheep farm. Cracks me up that she hates the term "hobby farm" that she ranted about on Huffington Post a couple of years ago. Hobbies is all she has!

      From what I've seen, any money paid NOW for things that are taking place in the future is spent on "wants" shortly after it arrives so that $200 each is long gone. And the excuse is that there is some risk in CSA. This is true to a point, but it's also sad that it gives CSA a bad name. None of them that I have participated in have netted me zilch! There is always something, even if there are some failures. The biggest failure in this case is lack of planning and no research into costs before taking people's money.

      It is absolutely mind boggling to me that people still send her money! Only thing I can think of is people living vicariously through her "adventures" that only dream of such things. Maybe they'll eventually wake up.

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  40. She hasn't blogged about getting a new dog, nor has she mentioned it on the Cold Antler farm page. I'm ashamed to say I fell for her crap and donated a few dollars. I didn't expect a personal thank you, but a comment like, "thank you to those who donated," but there was nothing. This was just before I discovered all this stuff here. I can't believe I fell for it. I usually notice and get tired by people who are constantly in crisis mode. I guess I really believed that she was extremely busy. Now, it's a train wreck I can't stop watching.

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    1. You aren't the only one and I'm glad I'm not wasting any more of my hard earned money.

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  41. Here is the deal:
    1) She started out earnestly trying to live a farming life
    2) She became popular on line
    3) She published a book
    4) She became an expert in anything she ever did (and has not done)
    5) She started to scam people out of their money
    6) She cries poverty and lists woe is me stories to pad her wallet
    7) She has no need to thank anyone, because everyone should adore her
    8) If you have been scammed, count yourself lucky to have figured it out before she took every last cent from you

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  42. OK. Behind on the mortgage, truck payments, Merlin payments, and student loans? Have no firewood? No hay? And she's buying hawk kits and a dog that will not live up to its potential, because she won't take the time to train it (been there, done that). I can't believe she has NEVER made good on those wool orders, and I think someone mentioned a logo order, too. There's a word for that.... it's: THIEF.

    I am REALLY concerned, frankly, about her animals. Lamb's still down with no vet care; haven't heard about poor, old sick Annie (husky) lately either. I'm assuming Annie gets no vet care, either. Sheep hurting themselves in wire fencing trying to get out to eat. Again, no vet care, no fencing. And she want to add another dog and a hawk to this madhouse? I have another couple words for her: ANIMAL HOARDER.

    I actually filled out an online form to report her to her local SPCA, but have heard nothing back. I may go ahead and call them. I encourage you all to do so, too.

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  43. Wow, this whole hawk thing on her personal Facebook page is even getting some nasty comments and such from her "friends"... I like how the fanfriends act like those protesting are just upset at the whole 'art of falconry' and such... when I think some of it and more of it is just the whole frustration over her devoting all this time and money and resources to yet another HOBBY for her HOBBY farm. I'm sorry, Cold Antler is not a real farm. The wee bit of money she gets out of a couple pig shares and even some workshops (which are not usually considered farm revenue... at least not in my book), that does not a fully working farm make. She is a writer, great, fine, hey, lots of people with HOMESTEADS have a day job or something that pays the bills. But face it, it's a HOBBY FARM, honey. the hobbies far far far outweigh any income from a couple pigs. Or wait, sheep? Naw, she can't get the wool CSA out and she really doesn't have many lambs or really desirable sheep. Black face scottish sheep are really not that desirable for wool, it's very coarse... face it, they are a novelty sheep breed... a hobby!!! She wants to be some Scottish lady with her manor and hobbies while her serfs (you and me) toil away and keep her in kilts, ponies and hunting trips. I dunno. I feel stupid now for donating a time or two, but no more. No thanks...

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    1. Unbelievably, I was allowed to be a "friend" on that FB page. Wow, I kind of can't believe the viscous spewing of acidic hate/threats because of their blind, cultish 'jennalove' toward people that just simply have a (respectful) different opinion on things. Wow. It's like her blog when the comments were turned on, only x10. It's Cold Antler Cult.

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  44. The hawk Gods are on our side. She caught an adult, but had to leg it go. Here's praying all the juveniles have gone south for the winter, where it's safe and out of reach of Cold Antler Farse

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  45. Re: Falconry. In her own words.

    7/29/13
    I know many of you are confused about Falconry. What could seem more unnecessary? But there isn't actually any expense to it, not anymore at least. I did have to buy $124 dollars worth of equipment and pay a $40 test fee back in April, but that's it. I now have all the equipment and the materials for the mews are here, which were birthday presents. My friends are helping me build it, Ed Hepp is mentoring gratis, and the red tail hawk is free from nature. What falconry costs is time, and a sport done during the winter when I have it. Getting my apprentice license actually creates job opportunities too, since I work at a Falconry School who is losing it's partner in a few months. I could double my part-time income if I have that license, not to mention the book deal I could gain from my plans to write about it (something that is being discussed with publishers and magazines). When it comes to my particular, eccentric life, a red tail hawk makes financial sense and things like little ponies and martial arts do not."
    11/9/13
    I'm upset. This may mean Falconry is out this year unless I somehow can wrangle the State and Federal government to pull out all the stops, and this isn't exactly a high priority for any bureaucrat. Which also means no chance of a falconry book deal, which really effects the farm's bottom line as that was my best chance for another contract before Yule. So it's an emotional and financial blow, and frankly I am bummed out."
    11/22/13 via Facebook:
    "There is no falconry book deal......
    "The idea that I am doing falconry to make money is laughable!"

    In her own words. Total and complete 180. All of this is available to be reviewed, no one is putting words in her mouth.
    A few months ago I started thinking I was insane for seeking clarification and trying to "verify" blog posts. Simple fact, I wanted to know where my money went. After you scratch the surface..... Wow.

    ~ A

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  46. Yep, scammers are as scammers do. She wouldn't know the truth if it hit her in the face. Liar. Loser... Hopefully, slowly, people will wake up and stop drinking the Kool Aid

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  47. They will. Some, at least. My first reaction to these claims was to defend her, as I don't know anything about livestock and thought she was doing okay. After spending that weekend reading, I finally put it all together. Around here, a lot of farmers have off farm jobs. Personally, once I know I'm going to be late with a payment, that's a sign to get a steady stream of income to rely on.

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  48. The thing that's laughable is the thought that there is NO expense to a hobby. Especially after she admits spending hundreds of dollars. But, maybe since it was "donated" not worked for doesn't make it real money.

    And, it has to be fed! That costs money. I don't think hawks eat mixed bird seed either. They eat meat. So where's that coming from?

    No expense...yay right:(

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  49. Back to hawking (no pune intended) workshops to get the farm more solvent and get the mortgage caught up, buy tires and firewood.

    Man is this record old

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  50. I remember the days when she claimed (ardently, I might add) that workshops and donations were NOT NECESSARY to run the farm, just helpful. Now they are the only thing to keep the farm going! Has her publisher finally caught on that she recycles content for every book, ala Jon Katz? I'm sure her editors have complained about how poorly written (grammatical and otherwise) her books are. Imagine the rounds of rewrites they have to go through! I can't understand, why in this day and age of automatic spell check, that her blog posts have so much misspelling and grammatical errors. Yes, she claims it's like a journal, so she feels no need to spell check, but she also claims to be a writer and she SHOULD take pride in what she's putting out for all to see. But that would be too much hard work, which she isn't accustomed to.

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    1. She sells the "taste" of being a self sufficient farmer... for wanna bes that are never going to really take the plunge. They just want to play farmer for a bit. She's offering just a taste of it all, so she doesn't actually have to produce much. Rather like a museum farmstead... where it's all fake but you feel good about your $17 visit and a trip to the gift shop. Run by volunteers so you don't have to pay them, and lacking in real get it down effort. I always hated walking through those things... I would see the houses and buildings with the costumed ladies stirring the pot of soap and dipping candles and acting like the time was so simple and wholesome... yet all real accounts of those years was hard hard hard struggle, from sunup to sun down and it was dirty and hard and painful and just hard! hard hard hard hard! My gosh... her last post is the new cry for more donations and help... her proofing in so bad, it says she's being foreclosed on tomorrow? I think she meant to say, she's not being foreclosed tomorrow... gosh, big big difference, eh? I'd be having a fire sale of all I could to get caught up. I'd be getting a stupid job somewhere... part time whatever. Surely some local yokel would be happy to have her there as a side show attraction... why not the bookstore or whatever that is feeding off her? Anything? Wood and tires don't cost that much. A couple hundred bucks a week would surely make a big difference. Ugh. Just. Can't. Stop. Watching...

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    2. Your comment on the "museum farms" made me think of an idea I had a few months ago. The test for any wannabe homesteader or farmer should be this: re-read the Little House on the Prairie series as an *adult.* If your reaction is the same as it was when you were a little kid (ie: oh, it's so romantic to live out on the quiet plains) and not "What a miserable, back-breaking, near-deadly existence" you need to rethink your life plans. That doesn't mean you can't have a few animals and a garden; just don't rest your entire finances on "living off the land."

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    3. Oh my gosh, reread the Long WInter. To me, I just feel dreadful reading about the twisting hay to stay warm thing. Can you imagine? And the brothers hiding wheat in their walls because they were worried they would starve to death? Oh yeah, that's a good way to separate the wannabes...

      But you know, you can be a little of both if you want, and that's what is kinda cool today if you want. You can do some things, a few animals, big garden, hunt, can, craft... but there's no way she can be sustainable with a big ass mortgage and truck payment and student loans and all that. I mean, she doesn't really have enough farmy resources to make anything near that. She has to rely on an "outside" source to keep things running. IE the writing, the workshops, etc etc. And you know, I don't think anyone begrudges her doing that, really, it's just the whole setup is not working. It's not generating enough funds. Or/And she is not using the funds generated properly. Or efficiently.

      I so agree with folks that have written... said she needs a wake up call on what is a priority and what is not. Yes, you need a vehicle. But when you work at home, and you have a horse too, and friends around, you can get by with a beater. Ditch the truck with the high payment and insurance and the dang snow tires. Get a used station wagon or something. You can always have hay delivered or pick up a small bunch at a time.

      The sheep are non-producers for her. Their wool is not marketable, not really. I don't know too many people that say, oh, do you have a real coarse kinda nasty fleece for me to spin? ah. no. Scottish blackface are not really high on the desirable wool market. Ditch all but one or two of those, if you just really love their looks. Get some decent woolies, maybe some Shetlands... nice nice wool, easy keepers, smaller. (I know this from experience, I have my own small flock)

      Tough as it is, sell or trade somethng for the pony, keep Merlin. Yeah, I know some folk want her to ditch him too, but hey, she's in to him and well, it's fine to have one and she uses him for a variety of things. But both of them? That's a lot of hay for a pasture pet.

      Cut back, reduce, get centered again. All these animals are costing money, time away from the more profitable ventures for her... writing, etc. I am sort of on the fence about the pigs. I have pigs as well... and pigs are pretty easy to raise. And for us the most profitable. But it seems to me that she always butchers them way too small. Keeping them 6 months, really would make a much better return on her investment, just in my opinion. I dunno.

      I just think it's sad that she has all this stuff that is burdeoning her, and yet she can't or won't see some simple fixes. Everytime she talks about repairs and such, I cringe. She doesn't seem to have any good horse sense around her for stuff. If she needs snow tires, then go to the local junk yard and get a couple at a time. Yeah, they might only last a season, but they sure as heck aren't like $500 or whatever. get some chains. Stay home on bad days. I dunno.... make it work or do without.

      Get a roommate. Why the heck she doesn't take in some sort of silly young woman as a roommate for some extra cash, all her rabid fans? She could find one that would chip in a couple hundred a month and probably help with chores for fun. Why doesn't she trade some animals off for stuff like hay or tires. Or trade her graphic skills for stuff. Or whatever. Gosh, it's so maddening.

      I think whoever said it, she's really not a very hard worker unless it's some hobby she wants to do. I like how she can spend ALL DAY driving around looking for a stupid hawk, but she can't work at the quickie mart or whatever. Yeah, whatever... ugh....

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  51. She's a horrible writer. Most writers like the English language and usually know the rules, but she either doesn't know the rules or doesn't care. In her last post, she couldn't decide whether it was Indie Music Days or Music Indie Days. Has she ever heard of proof reading? Whatever her editor gets paid, it isn't enough.

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  52. I have it! She should marry that hay guy that always asks her and then she'll have his pension to suck off for the rest of his probably short life... and then she'll be a dairy farmer too! Doesn't he have cattle? Or is he a beef cattle guy... still... just think! it would be awesome and solve a lot a problems!

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  53. Oh good grief! I just read her latest post. This part struck me as pathetic: "I guess I'm scared because I don't know how this story will end. Will the farm collaspe on itself? Will I get some Hail Mary break?"

    What is she, sitting back and letting "fate" take over? How about DOING SOMETHING about the situation. Be proactive. JFC. She's constantly a victim. Poor Jenna..... That gets old REALLY fast. She's perfectly capable of "saving" herself and her farm, if only she'd get a damned job.

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  54. "I think of debts, projects, repairs, expenses, the tasks ahead just making it month to month"

    "the bank is foreclosing tomorrow"

    Oh for God's sake...not this drivel again!!!

    "So tonight I have a request for you. I am asking for your help. I want anyone else out there in these same shoes — or people who have felt like this before — to send me an email telling me their story."

    And now she wants to hear how others have done it.

    Well – sweetie I can tell you how we do it. We hunker down. We cut our spending. We become frugal and careful. We stretch a meal, make do or do without.

    WE DON'T buy horses and carts and saddles and kilts and games and pigs and dogs. We don’t eat at Subway or buy books on tape or take martial arts classes. And we certainly don’t indulge in frivolous pursuits.

    We make a plan, we make lists, we count our pennies, because when we do the dollars will follow, we stick to the plan no matter what. We honor our debts and pay those we owe before we pay ourselves. Because we believe it is a reflection of our ethics and dignity.

    And, WE DON’T depend on others to bail us out of the messes we make.

    That’s how we do it.

    Some of us do it alone, some as single parents and some with kids. JW just be grateful YOUR stresses don’t include kids in school and exes at the door, which can be far worse than your mythical wolves.

    So, my dear Jenna, STOP your whining and get up off your lazy ass and get to it because in the end NO ONE is going to bail you out!!!

    Not even your faithful readers…it’s not their responsibility.

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  55. Guys, she has been told this all many times.. She does not listen, because deep down she knows the readers will bail her out. As some wrote, it is that time of year- do cultivate empathy for her plight. There *is* no plight. Have *no* sympathy for her, because that is the currency with which she runs her play life. Have sympathy for those who actually work, and still have a hard time. Go to your local real farmer and give them help. Reading her blog is like watching day time Soap Operas- always tons of drama, year after year.. and none of it real.

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  56. I have to laugh... On her personal Facebook people are saying you know you can get a side job or something and she wrote... All the freelance and talks and classes are her part time jobs and if she got another off farm gig she would loose and so it's not financially sound. Agh! What crap. So like if that ain't working then what? I guess just whine about it and hope the readers will pay her bills. Honestly. go get a dog? Wtf....

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    1. If that is the case, that another PT job isn't financially sound, and she's STILL treading water, then I think it's time to take a look at her outgoing money. Or maybe quit three of the part-time jobs since that isn't working either and consolidate them into one? I keep going back to Jon Katz's post about Jenna and how he used to be the same way: hoarding animals, spending money, taking on more and more and more until it nearly killed him. I just don't get it. But I guess it's always easy to look at someone else's life and see what they are doing wrong.

      My husband and I are treading water a bit with money right now, and we drove by the animal shelter the other day. I thought "wow, how easy it would be the go get a dog today." And guess what? We didn't. We said no to ourselves. It was hard to say no for about *two seconds.* But we did it. We did it because we're adults. We aren't getting a dog until our house is finished (we're building it ourselves) and until we have paid off our land loan. I know all too well how quickly a dog can go from "almost free!" to thousands of dollars worth of debt in a second.

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    2. I don't read Jon Katz's books or blog but I was interested in what else he had to say about JW. She should go read this entry: http://www.bedlamfarm.com/2013/07/29/the-real-world-jennas-farm-my-farm-my-life-what-is-help/
      While I don't agree with everything he says, the part about the "go-girls" and "Amen Charlies" not helping but ENABLING her to live in her delusional world is right on: "The people who cheered while I spent money – helped me spend money - were not my friends. The people who enabled me were not helping me. The people who I thought would rescue me did not help me. The people who told me how brave and wonderful I was were my partners in delusion, no one ever told me that I could not buy things I could not afford, I could not live a life of fantasy. I lurched from crisis to crisis, drama to drama. It was always okay, it was always going to be all right. In AA, they call it alcoholic thinking. There is always a good reason to take a drink. There are always people whose lives are so filled with holes they fill them with the lives of others. The Internet is a blessing and a poison in that way, it brings support and reinforces just about anything."

      Of course, she would have to be able to SEE herself in the above way, which I doubt she can. Because if she did, she couldn't pretend that a hobby like falconry is at "no additional expense when it says right on the NY dept of Conservation site that "Falconry is a sport that demands dedication, time and money." The NY State Falconry Assoc. says" The responsibilities of keeping your hawk healthy and flying it on game are 24/7/365. If you are prepared to devote the time, energy, and resources necessary to become a falconer, then read on…." Who is she trying to kid? If she can't afford veterinary care for a sheep, which is supposedly what this "farm" is about, then how in the world would she be able to afford vet care for a hawk?

      She ought to wake up at night in a cold sweat. If I was in the financial position she was in, I doubt I could function during the day! There is no way I could be that far behind in a mortgage yet justify frivolous spending of any sort.

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    3. Wow. That's a powerful post by Katz. I just went to the URL and read the whole post. Really good (I don't read his blog, incidentally). But that post was right on the money. Wish JW would take it to heart.

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  57. HUH??????!!!!!!!
    From FB:

    Jenna Woginrich: There is no falconry book deal. It would be nice but only because making some money from doing something I enjoy is everyone's dream? Isn't it?

    November 22 at 11:50am · Like · 4..

    Jenna Woginrich: The idea that I am doing falconry to make money is laughable!

    November 22 at 11:52am · Like · 2

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    1. From CAF blog:
      I'm upset. This may mean Falconry is out this year unless I somehow can wrangle the State and Federal government to pull out all the stops, and this isn't exactly a high priority for any bureaucrat. Which also means no chance of a falconry book deal, which really effects the farm's bottom line as that was my best chance for another contract before Yule.

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    2. Does she think we're all BLIND or have short-term memory failure???????

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    3. Can Cold Antler Roast Adult Hawk recipe be far behind

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  58. LOL! I did not have my glasses on... Anon posted this yesterday, too. (Maybe I AM blind!)

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  59. this kind of weather seems early for the level of harshness hitting. I hope it isn't a preview of the months ahead!

    She must not read the Farmers Almanac. They've been predicting a bad winter since September.

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  60. It looks like the sick lamb died. I have followed her blog for a few months and have noticed the financial meltdowns as well. I started thinking things were weird when she was asking people for $ for reading her blog. I know almost nothing about farming but like to read homesteading books. She seems in waaaaay over her head.

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  61. If she were smart she'd have that lamb autopsied to find out what the problem is. But I think we all know that won't happen.

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  62. Yes but then the vet would see the truth. Probably something simple?

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  63. If you all had been to her place and saw how she cared for her animals, there is no question how it and the myriad others died. She does not care for her animals. That animal could not get up since the 5th of November. An animal that cannot get up is SUFFERING. To not get that is yet another example of her stupidity. How many more animals must die at her hands?

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  64. It sure seems a little odd that you would let a normally active and young animal linger for over two weeks when it couldn't get up. She probably knows what happened to it, probably got hurt by another animal, kicked or hurt itself trying to jump the fence and get to food.

    I thought it was curious that she posted she spent over 40 hours looking for a hawk. Geez. That's a full time job for a hobby. I wish I had 40 hours a week to do my hobbies. And yet she doesn't have time for any other part time job or anything. Yeah, whatever.

    Just getting so tired of seeing this train wreck in slo-mo... and yet can't seem to stop watching. It bothers me that she has so many fans that think this is all normal. shesh, hardly!

    Sure if you have livestock, you're gonna have deadstock, it's just the way it will be. I have a small farm and yeah, things happen. But once it does you go nuts trying to make sure it never does again. And you fix fences, and you do whatever you can to keep the animals safe and tended. As much as she talks about her chores and such, you would think everything is peachy, but then you see some of the pictures and think, huh? why the heck is she doing it that way??? I dunno....

    Unfortunately, when you air all your dirty laundry and your whole life, you are going to get folks critiquing it all. Just comes with the territory I suppose. Still... you would think she would start learning more and getting better at this, rather than worse. Frustrating.

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  65. She shares it to garner sympathy, and did you notice how she phrased it? How "she" survived but the lamb did not? Also, the bit about not being able to eat it? Oh good God. I wonder how many more donations for "sheep" will come in now.

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  66. In the latest post, does it bother you that she mentions like three times how the turkey wouldn't fit in a 5 gallon pail, yet the picture at the top shows the turkey in a 5 gallon pail? Huh? Shesh.

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  67. That was interesting, but what I had to ask was why in the hell would you start processing a turkey at 3:30. Why not begin in the morning, unless of course you had to go PLAY first. Besides that how lame to do it by truck head lights. Get a freaking outdoor light or better yet set up a proper processing space.

    Good grief, are her city dwelling readers so gullible that they think this is how REAL farm people butcher animals. You'd never find Joel Salatin, JW's hero, butchering in such a half-assed fashion.

    Pity the people at that dinner. Didn't JW send herself to the hospital a few years ago for improperly butchering chickens? And, doesn't she now send them out to be butchered? In any event the lack of practice and expertise would make me very nervous to eat anything from her farm.

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  68. Not only that but that bucket didn't look like the cleanest one around. I've been around all kinds of butchering and I know it's a messy process but we would have never dreamed of using such a dirty container to put the food in! I'd be nervous too!

    Starting at 3:30 in the afternoon on these short days was pretty crazy. "The actions of poultry slaughter and dressing has become something as routine as baking bread or starting a fire - I don't have to think about it anymore. It is a skill I have and it is branded in me, part of me....and turned on the headlights of the truck to finish the gutting. " By her own admission, she did sicken herself once due to sloppiness in her processing. Gutting by the truck headlights would scare the crap out of me and I'd be eating only the side dishes!

    I can just imagine how puffed up she'll be at that celebration about the turkey coming from "this farm".

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  69. The title is what had me laughing "dedication is plucking by headlight". Give me a break...that's not dedication, more like poor planning and stupidity. I wouldn't eat anything that came off that farm.

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  70. Several hours a day trying to catch Red Tails... The life of the rich and famous. So nice not to have to work for a living and just get donations to see you through.

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  71. So...she is in her truck for hours Checking hawk traps and looking skyward for juvinels. Too bad she doesn't spend that kind of time fixing the problems on her place. Then it wouldn't be such a wreck...I'm sorry I mean scrappy. No matter it means the same thing.

    Thank God for rain.

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  72. Glad to know she's wasting so much gas driving around for hours every day. It's not like she's saving up for basic needs for the winter or anything...

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  73. I thought Merlin provided her travel needs or was I reading another misrepresentation of the reasons for having a fell pony?

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  74. She keeps Merlin because he's fall-down-the-stairs-amazing, duh!! I hate her overuse of that, she thinks it sounds cool.

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    1. He probably is a wonderful pony. Someone else owned him for almost 20 years, someone who must have known what they were doing.

      I think she wants him because she's one of those people I think of as " hairy horse costume people." You see them all the time now on Fresians and draft crosses. They wear medieval costumes, full armor, or fairy costumes, complete with the big wings. Sometimes they make the horses wear costumes too. They breed their horses for their hair and how well they will look costumed up. They've all but ruined the Fresian breed.

      If Jenna had encountered a Highland Pony, she would say the same things about it. But truthfully, she would do just as well with a Welsh Cob,Haflinger or Morgan. That is, if she could afford to buy hay. I hate to think what Merlin really looks like under all that hair. I suspect rain rot and ribs. I've also noticed that in the pictures of her riding him, his feet look terrible. When will he go lame?

      Deb

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    2. Hahaha, she really does read Meredith's blog and all the comments! right after I posted the above comment she removed the "fall-down-the-stairs-amazing" phrase from her latest blog post, where she used it two times and was particularly annoying to me. She must have such low self confidence, look how easily swayed she was.

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    3. Omg rotfl!!! You made my night:)

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  75. She probably can't handle the fact that there are people out there that know much more than she does and aren't impressed with her pretend farm.

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  76. Made my day too. I am glad she reads this. Perhaps she will wake up, but she's in too deep now to admit she's a sham. Roll on the memoirs (rolls eyes).

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  77. So let's be nice a moment then. What positive critique could we offer her to help her be less of a sham. She's got like six acres, nice house etc, it should be enough fir her to make a respectable homestead. Let's assume she keeps most of her animals. Any good ideas? I think she gets a couple hippy young fan folk roommates... Even if they don't pay rent but help, she could work with them... Looks like she has a bit of woodland... Harvesting out some nice fencing would help the whole feed thing issue and escapees... Not have to buy firewood for awhile? Fix up a proper shed for the animals? Of course, laying low on some of the hobbies fr awhile and really working hard with a plan would probly do wonders...

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  78. That is very nice sentiment, but she has been told this for years. She is not stupid. She knows that she could get a roommate, or heaven forbid a job. She's college educated. She prefers to not grow up and be Peter Pan and hope that she can flutter through life, knowing that if she phrases her tales of woe just right, she will be bailed out again. And again. And again. This is a new form of welfare she's on, and it's called concept farming CSA, you send me money to fund my cool hobbies, and I can write about it! And, if I do not, cannot and will not fill your orders for fleece, meat, or what have you, so be it, that is how a CSA works

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  79. Wow... Clan Cold Antler. Have you seen the latest? $65 for a once a week blog post and some other such drivel.... free farm pass to come and look around the place. Woooeeeee! I'm gonna sign up for 5 years! Unbelievable. Just. Wow... Yeah.

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    1. If I HAD the $65 to frivolously spend, I would sign up only because I'm really just terribly interested in reading about all these horrible "personal issues" she alludes to in her regular blog that she's promising to reveal to all of her readers...once they pay up, of course.


      Maybe she has some rare, debilitating toenail fungus that prevents her from showering, paying the mortgage, seeking veterinary care for her animals, and putting up proper fences?

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    2. Don't forget, the REAL reason she can't get a job will also be revealed.

      I have 6 mentally challenged adults working at my company and they put in a good days work, so if it isn't on par with that it's just more excuses.

      I'm not so curious to plunk down $65 to a more unsworn sob story, which will be laid in thick for the few who pay to be the inner circle.

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  80. Wow... people paying to be her "friend". That's just SO wrong.

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  81. Anyone wanna join Clan Sham? Pay $65, and get nothing in return. The usual.

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  82. "Clan Cold Antler is an idea I came up with to support the farm and create a new revenue stream."

    Wow! She's thought of yet another way to bilk people out of their hard-earned cash!

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  83. Most subscriptions that charge offer real value for the money they charge. It's not just fluff and whining about their lot in life, but real life practical useful info.

    On second thought...the subscriptions I have have that are the most valuable to me don even charge.

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  84. I find it very disappointing to see, over the two years I've been reading CAF, that the requests for money have gone from very occasional to very frequent (no doubt due to the lack of regular income). Along the way, the magic has gone out of it for me....

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  85. Heck, you can get three awesome magazine subscriptions for $65, written by Pro-fessional writers on a huge variety of awesome subjects of which they are probably proficient and skilled at... as opposed to a wanna-be farmer with a fleeting interest and the internet to surf for quotes. OH MY GOSH.... We should take up a collection for the $65 just so we can discuss it all here... !!!!!!

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    1. I agree. I'll donate $5 for the laugh.

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    2. 5 bucks i'm in.

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  86. OMG, I'm so glad I found this blog and this post. All I've been able to do for months was spit and sputter at the audacity. Words almost escape me today. I usually will read her blog around this time of month, because I've noticed that's when she'll write something in a panic, or beg for money or try to sell something. I bet the post about "get a job" comments is a doozy. But. I did know this was coming, she just doesn't have the income to support herself and she can't continue to wait for people to feel sorry for her before they send a "donation."

    I don't care if she does read this blog and the comments, she really needs to, and she needs to read the post on the Bedlam blog too. I have a sister who is a narcissist, she shares a lot of Jenna's traits, particularly the tendency to be hard headed, live in a fantasy, have regular panic attacks because of a crisis in her life that she caused, but even she is not as hard headed, conceited and delusional as Jenna. Sorry Jenna, live with it or GET A JOB. I bet the Jennafans will be on the new blog fuming about this one.

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  87. You know. All this and watching the unfolding drama on Facebook as she tries and defends her clan with even her fans that are finally being a bit hardspoken... I just can not stop and think of how best to say what I am thinking about it all, but I'm gonna try. Just because if I don't my head is gonna blow up!

    I have been following her blog for years now, years. I have bought all her books. I've enjoyed her writing and the blog. Until lately. I was so excited for her when she left the day job. I was. I work at home and have a small homestead farm, the whole nine yards. I love being here. I still have to do my freelance work to keep it all afloat and I live very very very frugily... but I choose to. I even blog. And have a fairly nice following. (about 300 to 400 readers a day) I've never asked for help, but I do have a wee little donation button at the request of a few readers and every so often a little help comes from it That's very nice and I really do appreciate it.

    Okay, I digress. The point is, there are hundreds of little homestead/hobby farmers out there and equal number of blogs. Okay, not all are authors but that doesn't diminish their contribution and the spunky true grit feeling of their effort and their openness to share their lifestyle. I read many and laugh and cry with them over things that homesteading brings to the table. I've even donated a bit here and there, helped with a good Kickstarter program etc.

    But this whole clan thing and the constant begging and selling and workshops and all that stuff... it's just so weary. SO SO SO weary. The "i am too important to go and get a part time job or sell stuff or whatever" is old. Someone said it right, she just wants us to support her fantasy life.


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    1. Hmm... appears even the Jennafans are a bit off-put with the "clan" thing.

      "Heather Nadelman I'll be honest, Jenna--I'd consider subscribing, but I'm worried about the fact that you once offered subscriptions to a year of video webcasts of workshops, and as far as I know you produced one or two and never any others. I'd be willing to pay for extra content, but I'd want to make sure that the extra content was guaranteed. It would be helpful if you posted on the regular blog the numbers of extra posts you're writing at the end of each month, to help the more cautious among us decide whether to sign up or not.

      Jenna Woginrich I didn't have the abiluty to create the webcasts and offered anyone who wanted it a full refund. Writing is something I can handle.

      Heather Nadelman I believe you can handle it, and I'd like to pay for the extra content--I just want to make sure that there *is* extra content before I do that. Would you be willing to provide a tally of the number of extra posts? That would be useful information. If not, would you be willing to give pro-rated refunds for, say a three-month period? (That is, you'd agree to refund $50 or so if the donor wants to quit within the three-month period?)"

      She didn't have the abulity to create the webcasts? After she already charged people for them??? omg
      I bet she "offered" a refund, but never paid it.

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    2. She has such a string of hare brained ideas that don't pan out, so of course people are a little worried... Goodbye 65 bucks.. Hello new idea d'jour....

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    3. I paid the $ for the clan. It's April 2. No post since March 21. The last two posts were just a single photo.

      Should I ask for my refund now?

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  88. (sorry... too long.... here's the rest...)


    Throwing $65 a year to this whole affair is like paying money to learn how to swim from a drowning man. I don't have the faintest idea to her logic that says, pay to read what I say about how to run a farm when I clearly can't make a go at it without donations, and workshops and all kinds of crap that really have nothing to do with a farm. It amazing.

    There are umpteen thousand videos on Youtube for free to teach you anything and everything about homesteading.

    There are plenty of books... ah, like her 4 books and many many others. That is how you support a blogger you like... you buy their REAL books... You support them by buying their books so their publishers are happy and buy more manuscripts and all that jazz.

    (Why the heck is she not writing articles for all the wanna be homesteading magazines. I mean she is a published author! That would be good income. Trust me I've done it before... oh my...)

    Anyway. This is all crazy crap. What about the book club she started? What about the yarn CSA? What about the Wheat club she started? What about all these crazy things she starts and never follows through with???? Are all the damn cloaks done? Probably not. She's too busy hawking..

    And then I see that she's started to push the whole Pagan thing... If you're her friend on Facebook you might have seen the whole happy cheery little note to the Capital City Pagan group and all... the look at me I have a black horse and shoot arrows and am going to be a falconry and all that jazz. Oh give me a break. I've noticed lots and lots of references to the Old Ways in her writing and such lately... and now, she will be the high priestess of her own clan!!! Oh my!!! Just like the gal in those books...

    (Just for the record, I don't have anything against the true Pagans, known a few, respect their right to worship as they wish, am fond of the old ways and Celtic people etc etc etc... but what I do feel ticked at is that it's just ANOTHER fantasy arena for her to play with and be special in and exploit... oh my... she's clearly failing at the whole profitably self sustainable green thing... haha... move on to the next arena.

    Sigh.... Okay, sorry to vent, just had to. This is just too much!!!!

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