Jennas meet up group...
The best part? Interview only!
"If you join you will be interviewed and then either removed from the group or welcomed to join in."
I didn't realize meetups could be by interview only. I also didn't realize you had to pay to be part of a group.
That's one way to weed them out...don't let them in!
Thank you for recording that for posterity.
ReplyDeleteApparently being a nudist Buddhist was a little too weird.
ReplyDeleteactually a number of pagan meetups are kind of done this way at least with the interviews. It helps to weed out some of the more how would you say enthusiastic members.
ReplyDeleteI find it interesting that on her Meetup profile, she claims to be a practicing Pagan or whatever for 15 years. When I first started reading her blog over 5 years ago, she was a Zen Buddhist who went on Zen retreats. She had been a Zen Buddhist since she was in college, according to her. She's what, 30 or 32? Why can't she just say she's been a Pagan for the past 3 years? Why say 15 years? Why does she have to be perceived as an expert at everything she's interested in at the moment? She's always searching for something, and at this point I'm afraid she won't ever find it if she hasn't already.
ReplyDeleteI find it more interesting that she is basing her kindred on Tyr the Norse god of justice and truth….but I digress on that one
ReplyDeleteLOL! Maybe she is secretly wishing for Tyr to punish her?
DeleteWhat working person has time to organize groups like this? And I include working at home. I can hardly find time to go to church much less invent one.
ReplyDeleteYeah, one wonders about this all. She can't get a real job because she's so freaking busy on all these social sites like Facebook and all. She posts like umpteen times a day, plus her blog and other sites. And then she runs around the forest nekkid and rides her pony and all. No wonder she can't get her work done for clients or webinars or whatever other schemes she has going on.
ReplyDeleteNekkid!! hahaha. That is fragging classic. I am gonna have to use that spelling. I love it.
DeleteIt seems incongruous that Jenna's okey-dokey with eating horses yet she's planning on writing a "Merlin and Me" book-- (about how Merlin changed her life....zzzzzzzz). Should we be concerned there will be a recipe section in the back?
ReplyDeleteI just read the meet up page, but I don't see anywhere that says there's a payment needed?
ReplyDeletePer HER OWN WORDS on HER OWN BLOG:
ReplyDeletePeople ask me why Cold Antler Farm is called Cold Antler. It's a mix of Zen Buddhism and hopeless romanticism
July 2011: I hope you spent the day with the ones you love, and find yourself tired and happy by the time you hit the sheets. I mean that with all I've got. And for those of you who have served, or have children in far away places tonight: you have my thoughts and prayers, which isn't much from a homesteading Buddhist, but she's all I've got.
April 6, 2013: You could call me a lapsed Catholic, a lazy Buddhist, a Cafeteria Pagan, or an Agnostic with a fiddle case.
Does she not know the difference between lies and the truth? That isn't 15 years, darling.
Sheesh, she can't even keep her own narrative straight. I guess this is what she meant when she said "live like fiction".
DeletePoof! The FB comment with the link to the BC breeder is gone. Jenna is certainly determined to keep that a secret......
ReplyDeleteShe is a person with too much free time on her hands. Get a J.O.B.
ReplyDeleteSO GLAD this blog exists to expose her lies.
ReplyDeleteHmmmm. Jon Katz writes about Maria being a Pagan. Jenna is now Pagan. Jon got a new puppy, Jenna gets a new puppy. Jon got a new horse, Jenna is getting a new horse.
ReplyDeleteMaybe CAF should be renamed, "Keeping up with the Katz's".
Funny-- I think she's been trying to model her life after Katz's-- she forgets that he's 67 years old with a much more successful writing career.
DeleteAnd even he couldn't stomach her. At the height of their short-lived friendship she said no one else on Earth knew her better than Jon Katz. Damn weird thing to say about someone else's husband.
I'm sure she's patiently waiting for the opportunity to get back in his good books--- hobnobbing with a NYT bestselling author is just the kind of ego boosting affirmation she feeds on.
Jenna on FB: "To whomever mailed Friday a BOX of puppy toys! THANK YOU!"
ReplyDeleteHint, hint--- send me prezzies! I want more gifts!
Why are people mailing her stuff on a regular basis? Dragon steamer, 32 cup coffee maker, puppy toys.....Isn't she embarressed to be seen as a charity case? Don't answer that.
She makes my stomach turn. I wish I knew her inner thoughts. Like...does she calculate these moves and play out the public's response in her mind (also...don't answer that...we probably all know), is she already counting the dollars or items she knows will coming pouring in before she posts her next weepy blog entry or FB cry for help? Girl got problems and her past-due mortgage is probably the least of them. Sheesh.
DeleteAgree. Its calculated for sure. Manipulation at its finest.
DeleteAgree. Its calculated for sure. Manipulation at its finest.
DeleteToday's post - "So come to the farm! Learn a skill! And support this feral farm gal because by the gods, she needs it :)"
ReplyDeleteIf she needs it she shouldn't have bought a puppy.
We would all like certain things in life...me included. But, I'm not willing to sacrifice my home just so I can have a toy I've been lusting over for years, RIGHT NOW!
Accumulating stuff is like a drug for her. Life is boring, but hunting for and buying stuff is an adrienaline rush. I know someone that matches her to a tee. I call him my ex, couldn't save a dime to save his life, always in debt, always buying, always behind, always someone else's fault, always looking for someone to bail him out.
I should introduce them:)
Jenna for the tenth time: "I can't say enough what a mood changer it is having such a darling pup here on the farm."
ReplyDeleteIf I was self-medicating with animals I'm not sure I would be so transparent about it......she's like an alcoholic except with puppies and kittens.
And "darling pup"? What are you, an English granny? Pretentious butthole.
Kate Kingsley-Taylor good thing you have a pretty good dog trainer down the road in Jon. Puppies unite!
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Jenna Woginrich I'm a pretty good dog trainer myself, ma'am smile emoticon
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Right, you trained your dog so well he herds zero sheep.
I think I just peed myself laughing. Jon is one of the worst trainers out there. Neither one should have a dog.
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ReplyDeleteyou all remember way back when before Jenna's first wool CSA I commented I wanted to wait one successful CSA season before purchasing shares and she filled out and said she knows everything about raising sheep? girl doesn't learn.
ReplyDeleteThe grossest mistake was in not even purchasing a wool-producing breed. Sure, all sheep grow wooly coats. Not all breeds are suitable for producing salable fleeces or yarn. Basic research before purchasing livestock or selling csa shares.
DeleteThe best part about these past couple blog posts here, is how transparent Jenna has become to the majority, and how she is nothing but poser who has to copy others, as she has NEVER had original ideas (even her cold antler farm, is derived from cold water creek clothes line). It's too rich. Jenna cannot train anything, and will not train this one, why should she? That would be work. Not going to happen.
ReplyDeleteIf the Cold Antler fiction life was a movie, there'd be a lot of continuity errors!
ReplyDeleteI'm casting Jonah Hill for the starring role......
DeleteOMG, LOL!!!!
DeleteLet me see if I've got this straight. Jenna is an organizer for a pagan meetup group. She is organizing a meetup on her property where they will haul logs from the woods, chop, split and stack to help her prepare for winter.
ReplyDeleteExcuse me while I die laughing! She has figured out another way to get free labor. Either this woman is a total idiot or a freakin' genius!
She's a con artist, praying on on others generosity. I think things are getting tough for her, however, people catch on eventually.
ReplyDeleteAs usual, Jenna knows best:
ReplyDeleteBlogger Dangerous Dreams Farm said...
If you want a working dog, keep her away from the livestock for now. Bad experiences like the one you described with the goats can turn them off for life or negatively impact their ability to work in the future.
June 4, 2015 at 5:35 PM
Blogger Jenna Woginrich said...
DDF - I assure you she is not phased! She jumped right at the goat pen today! But dog should be put in a dangerous situation before they are old enough to work stock. I was right with her the whole time.
Setting aside the fact that Jenna will never train her as a working dog anyway--- the commenter is totally right!
You know a human child would probably not be phased about taking a nap inside a warm oven, but that doesn't mean you should let them do it.
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Face it, she thrives on all this crap. I think she wants a certain amount of negative or critical comments because then she can act all high and mighty and smarter than everyone, it builds up her street cred. It makes her an 'expert' because she won't knuckle down and accept wisdom or advice. She's so wrapped up in her "gods gift to all things special" feelings that she can do no evil, no do harm and we are all the idiots and such for even commenting on her actions. She'll ruin her dog just like Gibson. Face it, they are just pets. It's still America and stupid is as stupid does. It's just new fodder for her ego building and con arting.
ReplyDeleteAll this but, also, she's just totally clueless. What difference does it make that she was there? Goat head butts puppy, puppy never wants to go near a goat again-- that would take all of three seconds. It doesn't need to be a no-holds-barred goat attack. The point the commenter was making is that it's easier to prevent training problems than to have to undue them later.
DeleteRemember, she ALLOWED that comment. She read it first and allowed it through. It was just another calculated sound byte that she can manipulate. She wanted to chide that person and make herself look good, like she's so knowledgeable and all. She allowed it to slip by.
DeleteGeez, I wish those people would stop telling Jenna what to do. Don't they know she's not only a hill shepherd but a world class trainer? If it weren't for Gibson's incredible skills she could never handle her flock of half a dozen sheep.
DeleteShe knows nothing, and it sounds like she's never really watched a dog being trained on livestock. They are so fast, you can't react in time to save them if something goes wrong. They also have no hesitation, and you want them to keep that, because someday it could save your life if a ram or bull decides to turn on you. So, I was always told not to start them before 6 to 9 months. I question Jon Katz letting his puppy in the sheep pasture too, but at least she's older and seems to be keeping her distance from the sheep.
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DeleteRedhorse, she's had lessons with a trainer. She took Gibson when he was younger but gave it up (of course). She should know better.
DeleteIf Jenna and Katz spoil their dogs it really doesn't matter-- neither one of them needs a working dog. So long as they don't get injured in the process.
I looked at the website and this pagan group was founded in Feb. 2015 by Jenna, who is running it.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened? Did her pool of free labor dry up? Did the folks at Common Sense come to their senses?
And the logo she created? Ripped off straight from the Stark sigil from Game of Thrones.
http://www.meetup.com/Tyrs-Good-Hand-Asatru-Study-Group/events/220830833/
http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/House_Stark
Holy crap-- that logo, that sigil.....why waste brainpower creating your own when you can just copy GoT!
DeleteGibson gets beat up by her sheep. Maybe she thinks that is normal for a Border Collie?
ReplyDeleteShe is learning from the best. Look at what the idiot Jon let happen to his puppy. I wonder what fool of a breeder sold it to him?
Deletehttp://www.bedlamfarm.com/2015/06/04/handling-herself-fates-lessons/
I was thinking the same thing when I read that earlier.....are they on some freaky parallel wave length or something? Bumblers gonna bumble......
DeleteWow... that's horrid. A 3 1/2 month puppy? How could she possibly have enough training to work a flock? Or even a single adult sheep.
DeleteThis farm is like the wizarrd of Oz, big, fake imagery and flames of power , now Norse gods and puppy luv, but pay no attention to that blogger behind the keyboard. Face it munchkins shes got look in my book, her niche is in getting internet traffic, a new sucka online every minute. Your job here is to keep the truth glowing, auntie M was right when she screamed don't buy the wool, the pork, the logos and the kickstart. Its all fake, all pre recorded using an ipad and uploaded, damn, the egg omelet cost a hundred bucks in labor alone, why take a pic of your food, theres ur god, let me keep taking pictures of myself, my life, my world, me, me ,me
ReplyDeleteAuntie M! You're hilarious!
DeleteHer precious fiddle is still for sale-- surprise, surprise. It must be like Pavlov's bell for her readers--- she must get a few donations everytime she puts it up for sale.
ReplyDeleteShe must have another fiddle - how else will she teach at her fiddle camp? Although she must get them pretty cheap from her source. But since she didn't offer a case with the one for sale, I thought she might have another. But she must know it would be awkward for her fans to buy it from her thinking it's her only one - even at that price which seems inflated.
DeleteGood catch about the case. You're probably right about it not being the tug at the heart strings, so to speak.
DeleteShe's probably got a closet full of "beloved fiddles" just waiting to be packed and shipped.
DeleteSomeone asked Jenna on her blog why she got a second herding dog-- her reply:
ReplyDeleteSiberian - that didn't come off as any way negative but thank you for considering my feelings. The answer is that I wanted a second dog because I have always lived with two dogs, and Annie is turning 16 soon. I adore Annie but I need to be realistic about her lifespan. So instead of getting a dog in a place of grief after losing one - I'd rather plan, save, and pick the right dog for my lifestyle. Getting the puppy wasn't about utility as much as family and while I will train her to herd and hopefully some trialing she is here to be Gibson's right hand woman and be the "second" dog when Annie passes on - with an overlap that does't leave Gibson as the only dog.
What a steaming pile of BS. She got a new puppy because she wanted one and she gets what she wants, when she wants. First off, it's hilarious the commenter had to bubble wrap their question so as not to wound Jenna's elephantine ego. Second, I love the way she makes it look like the puppy is really for Gibson's benefit.
She claims to "adore" Annie yet recklessly adds another dog (and kitten) to her household when she freely admits she's struggling financially. Annie may be nearly 16 but there are plenty of common and easily treatable health problems that are not death sentences that would require vet care. I'm thinking UTIs, incontinence, arthritis-- all pretty common for older dogs. I doubt she's considered any of this. Is the plan to euthanize Annie if she requires more than her kibble for upkeep? Even that will cost money.
"getting a dog in a place of grief" ???? Like you're going to be that broken up about a dog you no longer write about because she doesn't fit in with your farm fairy tale. (Yeah, she said this).
"I'd rather plan, save, and pick the right dog for my lifestyle." I think she meant plot and scheme. I hope she realizes that as long as she owes her mechanic it's kinda his dog, too. She probably should have run the name by him first.
And really, I'm sure Gibson could tolerate being an only dog for a little while--- he probably already is effectively.
Jenna always has to rationalize her shit decisions-- too bad it's the animals that pay the price.
Well, she certainly didn't save for it. Unless you count scamming her readers by claiming that she couldn't afford a root canal and taking THEIR savings.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if her remarks of specific partial payments on specific bills are really a pat-on-her-own-back or a message sent out that she still needs to pay the majority of the bill. Because who would admit they are so irresponsible? (and unethical)
ReplyDeleteIt is without a doubt a thinly disguised hint for people to send money. It sounds like, "I'm so poor, I can only make small payments on my bills. Send help!"
DeleteAnd she said she plans to spay the puppy, right? So she has funds for this right? Someone please remind her of her plan before the "unplanned" pregnancy happens!!
ReplyDeleteI'm starting to think Jenna lets animals die off on purpose. The constant "accidental" deaths and drama gets tons of attention and sympathy donations. She has pretty much stated that she views most animals as disposable tools. After all these years, it goes beyond willful ignorance.
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You have to almost wonder. I've always thought it was strange she mustered the nerve to post about yet another barnyard disaster. She's claims to be "keepin' it real" and sharing the good, the bad and the ugly.....her blog is pretty much just all ugly at this point. Does she like attention and sympathy? Yup. Donations? Oh, yes! If her paypal fills up every time a lamb wilts I don't think she minds at all, not one little bit.
DeleteAnother disaster? What happened?
DeleteI'm not sure what the most recent death/disaster was. It just seem like every few weeks disaster hits the farm or one of her charges dies from neglect or mismanagement. Shortly after, the wolves are at the door, she gets donations and the cycle continues.
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So if she is so busy with her 'dozens' of part time jobs, how does she have time to run a pagan meetup group?
ReplyDeleteI just re-read the original post and missed the part where you had to pay to be part of the group. Is that typical or just another money making scheme?
ReplyDeleteFrom Meetup's Terms of Service:
ReplyDelete"3.2 Fees Assessed by Organizers or Creators or Hosts; Payments to Organizers or Creators or Hosts. Some Organizers or Creators or Hosts may require or request fees for membership in a Group or participation in a Meetup Everywhere, or for attendance at Meetup Group or Meetup Everywhere events. Individual Meetup Group membership fees, Meetup Everywhere fees, Meetup Meeting or other event fees are at the discretion of each Organizer or Creator or Host, who decides whether such fees are required, the amount frequency, payment options, refund policies, and how such fees are spent."
Also:
"You should use common sense and be careful in deciding whether to make a payment to an Organizer or Creator or Host. Organizers or Creators or Hosts have full discretion whether and how to spend money in connection with their Meetup Groups or Alliances. We cannot ensure that an Organizer or Creator or Host is legitimate and truthful, that he or she will use payments as promised, or that you will be happy with how your payment is spent."
'Nuff said.
I wonder if JW asks them for their credit report in the "interview" to make sure they are able to pay her.
ReplyDeleteJust out of curiosity, I wonder how Jenna's starting a pagan meetup group will affect her relationship with the members of Common Sense Farm. They are Messianic Jews, which is really a form of Conservative Christianity and they take the bible literally. I'm sure they have strong opinions on heathens, pagans, wiccans, Norse gods and magick.
ReplyDeleteAnd speaking of Common Sense Farm, a google search revealed that it is more cult-like than community. After reading a few stories from ex-members, if I had to choose one, I think I'd rather take my chances on the pagan meetup group.
Now you've got me reading about Common Sense Farm/Twelve Tribes.....!!!! That's a whole lot of crazy to digest at once.
DeleteMaybe that's where Jenna got the inspiration to have people over under the guise of a religious gathering and then put them to work.........
Well, sounds like Jenna was able to get at least a little work out of the folks who came for the Draft Horse Primer. In her description she wrote "We will learn, pull some logs out of the woods, stack, chop, and help prepare the farm for winter."--- maybe next time.
ReplyDeleteAttendee: I did battle with the rose thorns on the back end of the archery range and came out with only a few cuts.
Jenna: Thanks all! Grateful for Tim and Jo- the farm is better for us all.
Does that mean only two people came to the workshop or only two people chose to be slave labor
DeleteShe's got pigs again. I guess the boar in the barn is dead.
ReplyDeleteI don't think she would dare blog about it. She knows what kind of response it would generate.
DeleteI find it hilarious that her friend Brett gave her a copy of a book he wrote, "The Woodland Homestead." It's about how to make use of the trees/forest on your land. Snicker..... hint hint.
ReplyDeleteEven more funny is its published by Storey. The publisher that kicked JW to the curb.
DeleteWere her and Brett ever an item? Is he one of the guys that broke her heart? I remember she did an "ask me anything and I'll answer" blog entry and someone asked if they they were together. She said something like "we'll see!" Just curious...
DeleteUnless there's someone from storey willing to confirm that lets make that a question not a statement. Can you fact check it?
DeleteUnless there's someone from storey willing to confirm that lets make that a question not a statement. Can you fact check it?
DeleteMeredith, I seem to remember a commenter on this blog whose husband worked for Storey (or another publisher, can't recall). Her husband told her that the publisher would not work with JW any more because of some issues. I cannot find the entry, though. Anyway, that's probably in the category of "hearsay", but it struck me as pretty legitimate.
DeleteAnon 2:32 - I remember that as well. The way I remember is that in a board meeting, they were discussing whether to pull her books from their listing.
DeleteSee Meredith's post on Saturday, January 11 2014. The first 2 commentors talked about Storey's unhappiness: AnonymousJanuary 11, 2014 at 6:28 AM and AnonymousJanuary 11, 2014 at 11:06 AM
DeleteWell, she's already figured out how to get free labor from her pagan meetup group.
ReplyDeleteShe called picking up her new pigs "grabbing the bacon seeds." She is so disrespectful on so so so many levels.
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