While Jenna is busy singing, Gibson and the puppy are circling the chicken tractors behind her......because that's how you get your sheepdog off to a good start. Of course, her fans find this hilarious, which it is really-- Jenna ships in a fancy dog from Idaho and she doesn't even have the sense to keep it from working by itself.
It is. I've raised two herding dogs. One, I got as a puppy, and from 8 weeks on she learned "poultry manners". On a leash, in the coop. She is allowed around the birds, under supervision. The birds move out of her way, but don't scatter. The other dog I got as a foster/adult dog. She just cannot control herself around flapping birds, so she is never allowed inside their fencing. When she gets anywhere near the birds, they freak out. It's terribly stressful.... not good for meat animals at all.
Also... Not to get too far off on a tangent, but it's similar to the difference between herding strictly for trial situations, and herding market livestock. Some people who train for trials place lots of emphasis on quick, precise movement that moves the livestock through the course ASAP. Sharp turns, quick pace. Others who train their dog to help manage a farm don't care if the pace is slow, corners are wide, or a gate is missed. They prefer a slower pace, because sheep that are run all over tarnation are stressed, tough, and poor meat. Those who use dogs to *work* a farm would never allow harassment of their animals. It's bad husbandry.
Yea, I know her viewers think it's play and cute, but she's creating a dog that now knows it's 'leader'- cough- thinks it's okay to play chase which will lead to ...we all know what's coming. I don't think she really cares.
Jenna's talking out of her butthole again--- if she thinks it's wrong to own livestock and not feed random hungry people with it could she please explain Sal, Joseph, and that crippled turkey she's been feeding? Why has she not fired up the BBQ and flagged down the car passing with the three hungry kids in the back?
That vlog was so full of shit I'm gonna have to hook on to the spreader to clean up the mess.
hmmm. why is that the last two -very eloquate- comments on her farm sanctuary blog post..if you look at the commentor's poster's profile, it's limited...or like somebody made it up to look like they were real and making an intelligent , calm comment that JW is letting through. Smell a fish.
OMG... That last vlog. Oh please. If she can live off other peoples donations and all the begging and crap, why can the few farm sanctuaries exist? Who made her god? I am so tired of her judgemental attitude. She's a freak and does all kinds of stuff off the normal path but no one else is allowed to do so? I raise all kinds of animals on my little farm. And you know, if someone else wants to take their time, money and land and make it a safe place for farm animals, great. That is what is awesome about America! We can pay sports figures millions of dollars if we want. We can give billions of dollars to charity if we want. We can donate to a lazy farmer wanna be girl with some livestock on her heathen homestead of death. Gee... Maybe we should stop that last thing. I am ashamed that I ever donated to her wacky causes not once but several times. I would have rather given it to. Bessie the sanctuary cow if it helped reached even one kid about farm animals.
That is one of the stupidest vlogs I've ever seen. Farm sanctuaries do not keep people who eat meat from supporting ethical farming. They probably make a lot of people aware of the factory farming system for the first time, and make them question the source of their meat. I suspect that very few people become vegans because they visit a farm sanctuary - but there's nothing wrong with it if they do! And those who continue to eat meat may decide to buy it from humane farming operations because they've learned that farm animals have feelings just like their pet dog or cat. Interesting that she's offended on behalf of "real farmers" and keeps claiming to be one herself, since she isn't. She doesn't run a humane operation, and I offer Maude as Exhibit A to prove that point. "Heathen homestead of death" - that is hilarious! You are pretty clever, Anon at 10:10 am!
This is just more wanna-be-Jon-Katz BS - he's strongly against farm sanctuaries and even slaughtered his own "pet" steer and donated the meat to a homeless shelter. The hypocrisy runs deep with both of them.
That whole story about Katz and his steer "Elvis" was BS. His story about that changed a couple of times. He had another steer and a cow that he said went to live at a veterinarian's farm. That never happened either. I went by that farm many times and never saw either one of them. Hypocrisy runs rampant with Katz and JW.
I'm with you Anon 10:10 truly embarrassed I ever donated. As to the last Vlog. I couldn't watch it all. My thought is that she's received a letter, visit, or comment from someone associated with a sanctuary. I thought the paranoia was creeping in with a touch of hysteria. It was just disjointed and far from making sense.
The whole thing was super weird-- ranting and raving about how she's an ethical farmer, farm santuaries are responsible for starving children blah blah blah--- and the paranoia!--- if I didn't know better I'd say she'd just eaten an entire tray of pot brownies.
The vlog demonstrated she doesn't understand the ethical vegan viewpoint/agenda. This is strange because she claims she herself was an ethical vegetarian/vegan for several years.
And was I the only person who got hit by the irony truck when she was talking about battery hens crammed into cages while sitting beside her chicken tractors ie cages crammed with 20 + chickens in a 4X8 space? Oy.
There's no shortage of food in this country. The amount of food wasted at every level of the supply chain is appalling--- the amount of "food" animal sanctuaries are "keeping" from the hungry is so miniscule I don't know how she ever got it in her head to make an issue out of it. People are hungry because they don't have money to buy food-- end of story. I wonder how many pig shares she donates to the hungry? Why is she any less culpable than sanctuaries for the hunger problem?
I don't know how she films these things with a straight face.
Anon, your right. There is no shortage of food. In fact, 90% of consumers throw food out when it still good because they don't understand the "sell-by" and "best-by" dates, and 40% of ALL food goes into the landfills.
To those of you who donated to JW. How did it feel when you read about her playing during the day while you were at work? How did it feel when you read about her frittering your hard earned money on some new toy? I know she reads this and she needs to hear it.
I donated for a specific purpose, vet bill and animal feed. I'm retired, worked really hard at a "poodle" job for over 30 years. Yeah, not much play time. Jenna's hobbies are not interesting to me now, nor would they when I was younger. I regret making the donations, since I have no idea if the money was used for the purpose I intended. There will be no more. I worked hard and paid my bills on time and never anyone for a donation in my life. As I've said earlier I got caught up after reading Barnheart. Now I know there is no plan for a sustainable future for CAF. I would ask one question to the readers of this blog. I know that Maudes ewe lamb died, does anyone know what happened? Thanks. Again Meredith, I appreciate you hosting this blog.
Brianna was the lamb's name. If I recall correctly (hard to keep track of so many untimely ends) she was found dead in the pasture -- not too old, maybe a few months.
Maude wouldn't mother the lamb so Super Farmer bottle fed it goats milk rather than get colostrum into it ASAP, like you do......
I'm right near you! I live in Lancaster County! Most of my dad's family is from York.
ReplyDeleteThat was actually a drive by tractor supply run for the shots before my brothers wedding...but I'm moving to Camp Hill in the near future!
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ReplyDeleteWhile Jenna is busy singing, Gibson and the puppy are circling the chicken tractors behind her......because that's how you get your sheepdog off to a good start. Of course, her fans find this hilarious, which it is really-- Jenna ships in a fancy dog from Idaho and she doesn't even have the sense to keep it from working by itself.
I wondered if that is stressful for the chickens too to have moving dogs surrounding them.
DeleteIt is. I've raised two herding dogs. One, I got as a puppy, and from 8 weeks on she learned "poultry manners". On a leash, in the coop. She is allowed around the birds, under supervision. The birds move out of her way, but don't scatter. The other dog I got as a foster/adult dog. She just cannot control herself around flapping birds, so she is never allowed inside their fencing. When she gets anywhere near the birds, they freak out. It's terribly stressful.... not good for meat animals at all.
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Also... Not to get too far off on a tangent, but it's similar to the difference between herding strictly for trial situations, and herding market livestock. Some people who train for trials place lots of emphasis on quick, precise movement that moves the livestock through the course ASAP. Sharp turns, quick pace. Others who train their dog to help manage a farm don't care if the pace is slow, corners are wide, or a gate is missed. They prefer a slower pace, because sheep that are run all over tarnation are stressed, tough, and poor meat. Those who use dogs to *work* a farm would never allow harassment of their animals. It's bad husbandry.
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Yea, I know her viewers think it's play and cute, but she's creating a dog that now knows it's 'leader'- cough- thinks it's okay to play chase which will lead to ...we all know what's coming. I don't think she really cares.
Delete^ Yes. The older commenters (several of whom raised wonderful working dogs) never comment any more. Chasing isn't herding.
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I caught that as well and shook my head, I would never allow my herding dogs to do that to my bird tractors or even along the bird fence lines
DeleteIts just bad farm dog manners and very stressful on the birds.
Jenna's talking out of her butthole again--- if she thinks it's wrong to own livestock and not feed random hungry people with it could she please explain Sal, Joseph, and that crippled turkey she's been feeding? Why has she not fired up the BBQ and flagged down the car passing with the three hungry kids in the back?
ReplyDeleteThat vlog was so full of shit I'm gonna have to hook on to the spreader to clean up the mess.
Animal sanctuaries are no more to blame for the hunger problem than Jenna is for spending her weekend jousting with Patty.
ReplyDeleteShe is the Queen of False Dichotomies.
hmmm. why is that the last two -very eloquate- comments on her farm sanctuary blog post..if you look at the commentor's poster's profile, it's limited...or like somebody made it up to look like they were real and making an intelligent , calm comment that JW is letting through. Smell a fish.
ReplyDeleteOMG... That last vlog. Oh please. If she can live off other peoples donations and all the begging and crap, why can the few farm sanctuaries exist? Who made her god? I am so tired of her judgemental attitude. She's a freak and does all kinds of stuff off the normal path but no one else is allowed to do so? I raise all kinds of animals on my little farm. And you know, if someone else wants to take their time, money and land and make it a safe place for farm animals, great. That is what is awesome about America! We can pay sports figures millions of dollars if we want. We can give billions of dollars to charity if we want. We can donate to a lazy farmer wanna be girl with some livestock on her heathen homestead of death. Gee... Maybe we should stop that last thing. I am ashamed that I ever donated to her wacky causes not once but several times. I would have rather given it to. Bessie the sanctuary cow if it helped reached even one kid about farm animals.
ReplyDeleteThat is one of the stupidest vlogs I've ever seen. Farm sanctuaries do not keep people who eat meat from supporting ethical farming. They probably make a lot of people aware of the factory farming system for the first time, and make them question the source of their meat. I suspect that very few people become vegans because they visit a farm sanctuary - but there's nothing wrong with it if they do! And those who continue to eat meat may decide to buy it from humane farming operations because they've learned that farm animals have feelings just like their pet dog or cat. Interesting that she's offended on behalf of "real farmers" and keeps claiming to be one herself, since she isn't. She doesn't run a humane operation, and I offer Maude as Exhibit A to prove that point. "Heathen homestead of death" - that is hilarious! You are pretty clever, Anon at 10:10 am!
ReplyDeleteThis is just more wanna-be-Jon-Katz BS - he's strongly against farm sanctuaries and even slaughtered his own "pet" steer and donated the meat to a homeless shelter. The hypocrisy runs deep with both of them.
ReplyDeleteThat whole story about Katz and his steer "Elvis" was BS. His story about that changed a couple of times. He had another steer and a cow that he said went to live at a veterinarian's farm. That never happened either. I went by that farm many times and never saw either one of them. Hypocrisy runs rampant with Katz and JW.
DeleteI'm with you Anon 10:10 truly embarrassed I ever donated. As to the last Vlog. I couldn't watch it all. My thought is that she's received a letter, visit, or comment from someone associated with a sanctuary. I thought the paranoia was creeping in with a touch of hysteria. It was just disjointed and far from making sense.
ReplyDeleteThe whole thing was super weird-- ranting and raving about how she's an ethical farmer, farm santuaries are responsible for starving children blah blah blah--- and the paranoia!--- if I didn't know better I'd say she'd just eaten an entire tray of pot brownies.
ReplyDeleteThe vlog demonstrated she doesn't understand the ethical vegan viewpoint/agenda. This is strange because she claims she herself was an ethical vegetarian/vegan for several years.
And was I the only person who got hit by the irony truck when she was talking about battery hens crammed into cages while sitting beside her chicken tractors ie cages crammed with 20 + chickens in a 4X8 space? Oy.
There's no shortage of food in this country. The amount of food wasted at every level of the supply chain is appalling--- the amount of "food" animal sanctuaries are "keeping" from the hungry is so miniscule I don't know how she ever got it in her head to make an issue out of it. People are hungry because they don't have money to buy food-- end of story. I wonder how many pig shares she donates to the hungry? Why is she any less culpable than sanctuaries for the hunger problem?
I don't know how she films these things with a straight face.
Thanks for summarizing it. I can't watch her videos. I physically can't stomach it. What will thus girl come up with next?!
DeleteThanks for summarizing it. I can't watch her videos. I physically can't stomach it. What will thus girl come up with next?!
DeleteAnon, your right. There is no shortage of food. In fact, 90% of consumers throw food out when it still good because they don't understand the "sell-by" and "best-by" dates, and 40% of ALL food goes into the landfills.
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To those of you who donated to JW. How did it feel when you read about her playing during the day while you were at work? How did it feel when you read about her frittering your hard earned money on some new toy? I know she reads this and she needs to hear it.
ReplyDeleteI donated for a specific purpose, vet bill and animal feed. I'm retired, worked really hard at a "poodle" job for over 30 years. Yeah, not much play time. Jenna's hobbies are not interesting to me now, nor would they when I was younger. I regret making the donations, since I have no idea if the money was used for the purpose I intended. There will be no more. I worked hard and paid my bills on time and never anyone for a donation in my life. As I've said earlier I got caught up after reading Barnheart. Now I know there is no plan for a sustainable future for CAF. I would ask one question to the readers of this blog. I know that Maudes ewe lamb died, does anyone know what happened? Thanks. Again Meredith, I appreciate you hosting this blog.
ReplyDeleteBrianna was the lamb's name. If I recall correctly (hard to keep track of so many untimely ends) she was found dead in the pasture -- not too old, maybe a few months.
DeleteMaude wouldn't mother the lamb so Super Farmer bottle fed it goats milk rather than get colostrum into it ASAP, like you do......